I wasn’t arguing about timing with you...just wanted your take as to when the events that Paul mentions would most likely occur.
In other words you believe that the events that Paul mentions will occur but not in a pretribulational time period. That’s all I wanted to know. And I can accept your opinion on that...there are certainly some open questions that will remain open until Christ himself reveals the answers. (But I’ll bet even you wouldn’t mind it happening earlier rather than later) So it is good to keep watch as Jesus says and to build each other up in the meantime.
the thing is that the pretrib concept doesn’t work.
It relies on twisting what the Bible says. Jesus says that we will suffer for following Him. Also very clearly, the pre-trib concept that Noahides take of Jesus then being the ruler over Jews on earth leads to the error of a double new covenant. Some posters here even insiste that there were two churches - the Gentile and the Jewish and that Jesus is the savior only for the Jews or only for the gentiles