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Was Beth Moore right to warn about Christian nationalism?
Christian Post ^ | 12/16/2020 | Michael Brown

Posted on 12/16/2020 6:32:13 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 12/16/2020 6:32:13 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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"American Christians far more mobilized for Trump than they have ever been mobilized for Jesus."

I think that's a fair assessment. Unfortunate, but true. I think the thing is that those who call themselves Christian, have the LGBTQP rainbow parade marched in front of them daily, coupled with the incessant chants of hatred for males, traditional families and unborn babies, and they are subsequently motivated for whomever is on the flip side of that, which Trump has been. Most vociferously.
2 posted on 12/16/2020 6:39:55 AM PST by softengine
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To: SeekAndFind

Are being a Christian and being a nationalist mutually exclusive? Love God, love your neighbor.


3 posted on 12/16/2020 6:42:16 AM PST by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government) )
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To: SeekAndFind

I have no idea who Beth Moore is, and from what she tweeted I have no interest in her whatsoever. She sounds just like another brain dead radical.


4 posted on 12/16/2020 6:44:06 AM PST by euram
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RE: I have no idea who Beth Moore is, and from what she tweeted I have no interest in her whatsoever

What is it about her tweet that you object to?


5 posted on 12/16/2020 6:44:58 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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“I think that’s a fair assessment.”

You don’t know what you are talking about and neither does she. That is like saying people mobilize for work more than they do for Jesus because they get up and carry out their daily routine for forty hours a week.

A clear and present danger, a war for survival, calls for a cohesive and immediate response. The response is not false worship.


6 posted on 12/16/2020 6:48:03 AM PST by odawg
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Hey, Beth Moore, what about your Christian Socialism Communism? Ain't happening!
7 posted on 12/16/2020 6:49:19 AM PST by Perseverando (Antifa, BLM, Libs, Progs, Islamonazis, Statists, Commies, DemoKKKrats: It's a Godlessness disorder.)
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Our United States of America is a Christian nation, and that is a foundation in the Construction of our Constitution, as essential as the other foundations - for examples: original intent, and enumeration of powers.

Yet in the Construction of our Constitution, tolerance among various practices of faith, required that a formal religion not be established as an official religion of the nation state.

Our country is a nation under God.

In the Construction of the Second Amendment of our Bill of Rights, lays the foundation for being a “conscientious objector.”

The formation of the Second Amendment, included at one time, a portion that would exclude “the religiously scrupulos” from having to bear Arms (that is purposely a capital “A”).

But that portion was later removed from the Construction, because that might be used by forces for tyranny, to disarm all who believe in God. Such a possibility - being disarmed, was against the grains of our foundations and freedom.


8 posted on 12/16/2020 6:49:37 AM PST by linMcHlp
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Jesus clearly stated, “Think not that I have come to bring peace, but a sword...”

Dividing believers from the eternally damned has to start somewhere. We are perhaps seeing the beginnings of it in this Country, right before our eyes.


9 posted on 12/16/2020 6:50:09 AM PST by Democrat = party of treason
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What is a nationalist? He is someone who cares about the lives of those who he considers part of his nation, more than those who are NOT part of his nation.

To globalists, this is evil.

I am a nationalist, and do not consider any globalist part of my nation.


10 posted on 12/16/2020 6:54:12 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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From a Christian standpoint, I suppose the best way to look at things is “who is closer to the values I value?”.

Any candidate who is “pro-choice” is a no for me.

Trump has his warts, but he is pro-freedom, which is very important to me. He is also the strongest pro-life President I can remember.


11 posted on 12/16/2020 6:54:17 AM PST by woweeitsme
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Shove the “Christian” Post where the sun don’t shine.


12 posted on 12/16/2020 6:57:05 AM PST by TTFlyer
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“By playing the role of an oppressed minority, Christian nationalism adds moral strength to its position while hiding the truth that its ideology is aging out and driving young people away through its intolerance.”

a) it should be "oppressed majority"

b) it's not "playing," it's the truth, just look at the recent SCOTUS cases regarding COVID restrictions and LGBTQ-whatever persecutions.

c)The author confuses the fact that the Left has caused the US to adopt sinful policies with what the US can and ought to be

d) the adoption of sinful policies goes hand in hand with the persecution of observant Christians and Jews, the pass given to Islam, and the political corruption of the country, as well as the development of pseudo-Christian doctrines in various denominations that accept manifest sins like abortion and homosexuality.

If you are a believing Christian, how can you not take a political stand under these circumstances? And how can you not appeal to your religious convictions as part of that engagement?

13 posted on 12/16/2020 6:57:11 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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Pro-life and Pro-freedom count for a lot.

I think God cares for the nation of Israel. I don’t see why God would be against our nation. I think Trump is fighting the good fight and I think Beth Moore is a wacko.


14 posted on 12/16/2020 6:58:33 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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Karen Olsteen, she is. Wanda’s her first name.

She’s apostate, violating 1 Timothy 2:12.

Looks like she wants to increase her book sales.

She talks with God, too...https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vIbBuJnqn5M


15 posted on 12/16/2020 7:05:43 AM PST by polymuser (A socialist is a communist without the power to take everything from their citizens...yet.)
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“To others, she has become “soft.””

No, her problem is that she claims God gives her special revelation and sets herself up as a teacher to the entire church. And what she teaches doesn’t have to be measured against the Word of God because....well, because she can take one word out of context and then derive life lessons for everyone.

The biggest sin is that men in the church have remained silent while she teaches gullible women and their weak-willed husbands.


16 posted on 12/16/2020 7:06:04 AM PST by Mr Rogers
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“Many Christian conservatives today are equating the fate of America with the fate of God’s kingdom, making one party (obviously, the Republican Party) into God’s party and the other party (obviously, the Democratic Party) into Satan’s party.”

The Christians I know most decidedly do NOT do this! But we recognize that SOME conservatives, and often Trump, have championed religious freedom and many Godly causes - all of which are under constant attack from every Democrat I can think of.

DEMOCRATS HAVE OPENLY REBELLED AGAINST GOD. They most decidedly hate Jesus. And Jews. While they adore Muslims....


17 posted on 12/16/2020 7:09:55 AM PST by Mr Rogers
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1. There is no such thing as bidenism. So that little canard of trying to act evenhanded is lower than moot.

2. The present phenomenon is not about nationalism at all. It looks like it to some because it DJT has made “America First” a rallying cry.

No, the present phenomenon is nothing less than a fight to the death, the two sides lining up along the ideological divide. Put simply, this is a visceral, tortuous war between good and evil. The standard bearers of good hold up the U.S. Constitution and the Bible (with their resultant liberties); the standard bearers of evil hold up the communist manifesto (with its inevitable tyranny).

Too bad so many words were wasted in a long, contorted tapdance around the real issue.


18 posted on 12/16/2020 7:11:31 AM PST by Migraine ( Liberalism is great (until it happens to YOU).)
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When our church brought that chick’s cult in as a official program — about 25 years ago, I think — we left.


19 posted on 12/16/2020 7:15:55 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free" Galatians 5:1)
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“I think that’s a fair assessment. Unfortunate, but true.”

American pastors might want to look in a mirror to see what that is so. Trump is very non-apologetical about what he believes in unlike many pastors.

You won’t hear a pastor criticize unwed mothers or divorce culture. You won’t hear a pastor support couples having more children. Many pastors have refrained from coitizing the gay lifestyle.


20 posted on 12/16/2020 7:16:44 AM PST by alternatives? (If our borders are not secure, why fund an army?)
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