Posted on 10/16/2020 3:50:29 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles
Not all - there were still Jewish settlements in Israel.
Jonathan Cahn’s book The Oracle nails it all down on a jubilean schedule, and includes that Trumps role and life was tied directly to prophesy. Pretty fascinating.
The jews failed to recognize who Jesus was.
True, but for all practical purposes it was an exile, the nation dissolved
"The condition of national restoration is the confession of a national offense…" Is this Pastor Bill's conclusion? If so, I disagree.
Israel is a nation today - not because they confessed a national offense and not because they believe in Messiah Jesus. They have done neither. The fact is that modern day Israel is made up of mostly secular people many of whom are agnostic or atheist. The religious orthodox Jews, who may Christians ignorantly exalt, are modern day Pharasees. You know, those with the same mindset that killed Jesus.
The only reason Israel is a nation today and the only reason Jews are coming home is because God has choosen this time to regather them.
Israel is back in the land, indeed. One of the great miracles of our time. But Israel is not restored as they will be. This has nothing to do with my conclusion, scripture itself tells Israel they must confess their offense in order to be restored, as the quotation of Hosea I gave. It is true also, as I have been stating that Orthodox Jews are the Pharisees
Israel is back in the land, indeed. One of the great miracles of our time. But Israel is not restored as they will be. This has nothing to do with my conclusion, scripture itself tells Israel they must confess their offense in order to be restored, as the quotation of Hosea I gave. It is true also, as I have been stating that Orthodox Jews are the Pharisees
The “real” Jews have never left Jerusalem. Those who accepted their Messiah are the remnant - the true Jews. Those who rejected Messiah have been rejected. After about 15 years - gradually at first - non-Jews were grafted in (as Paul said), and they began to call themselves Christians. But they represent the remnant of the Jewish nations, and have never left.
The Jews are and always have been God’s favorite children. But being a favorite child is often no fun at all. Major responsibilities and obligations ensue. The OT is the history of God choosing them and their trying to avoid their responsibility. God wanted them to be a light to the nations, a servant to all. God finally had to become incarnate in order to show how it should be done. Be that as it may, they are still the apple of his eye and always will be. But I am not jealous or resentful because the Father of a family has more love for all of the other children than they can possibly handle.
“Israel is a nation today - not because they confessed a national offense and not because they believe in Messiah Jesus. They have done neither. The fact is that modern day Israel is made up of mostly secular people many of whom are agnostic or atheist. The religious orthodox Jews, who may Christians ignorantly exalt, are modern day Pharasees. You know, those with the same mindset that killed Jesus. “
The High Priest (Caiphis) was NOT a Pharasee , he was a Sadducee. The Sadducee’s were like today hard left that did not believe in almost anything the bible said . The bible records Pharasees becoming followers of Jesus but not one Sadducee is recorded .
The Sanhedrin agreeing with Caiphis condemned Jesus to death. The Sanhedrin was made up of both Pharasees and Sadducees. Both Pharasees and Sadducees believed keeping the law made them righteous. Both were legalistic. Both groups were condemned by Jesus. Nicodemus, a Pharasee, is the one exception we know who defended and helped buried Jesus. Church tradition/history tells us Nicodemus was a believer.
Matthew 3:7 – Pharisees and Sadducees came to John the Baptist. He called them both a brood of vipers.
Matthew 16:1 – Pharisees and Sadducees tested Jesus asking Him to show them a sign from heaven.
Matthew 16:5-12 – Jesus said, “Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees.”
Matthew 22:23, Mark 12:18, Luke 20:27 – Sadducees do not believe in Resurrection.
Matthew 22:34 – Jesus silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together.
Acts 23:6-8 – Paul pitted the Sadducees and the Pharisees against each other in the Sanhedrin
Matthew 23 – Pharisees as hypocrites.
The bottom line regarding today's orthodox religious Jews is that they have the same Christ rejecting spirit and mindset of the Pharasees (and Sadducees if you will) of the 1st century .
The nation was still Israel regardless of what Rome did. There still remained Jews in the land. Rome was defeated by the Ottoman Turks, the Crusaders then the Ottomans again finally by the Brits. Just because Rome renamed Israel it still was Israel; you can call a Buick a Ford but it’s still a Buick.
You miss the point. The nation was dismantled, scattered to the ends of the earth, and there was no “National” Israel until 1948. Why did Israel lose it’s sovereignty for almost 2000 years. Moses predicted all of this of course.
True -but - there always was an Israel; not all Jews left. Call it whatever you want Israel was always there.
There has not always been a “Nation” of Israel, two thousand years came and went without one, the Nation of Israel was reborn in 1948.
Jonathan Cahn is an author not a prophet. He dies an excellent job with historical patterns that actually happened.
I don’t have my history paper available to me right now but I will post it sometime on Sunday for your edification.
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