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To: Oneanddone
... not a single case anywhere in the Bible where it is ever said one’s obedience to God earned them God’s free gift. Yet that obedience was necessary in receiving the free gift.

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Healing the paralytic at Capernaum is one of the miracles of Jesus in the Gospels in Matthew (9:1–8), Mark (2:1–12), and Luke (5:17–26).[1][2][3][4]

Jesus was living in Capernaum and teaching the people there, and on one occasion the people gathered in such large numbers that there was no room left inside the house where he was teaching, not even outside the door.

Some men came carrying a paralyzed man but could not get inside, so they made an opening in the roof above Jesus and then lowered the man down.

When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralyzed man, "Son, your sins are forgiven."

127 posted on 10/11/2020 5:50:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

—This passage in Mark 2:1-5 proves that faith is a work. The text says Jesus “saw their faith”. What Jesus saw that is called faith is the work the men did in removing the roof and lowering the sick man down to Christ.

—Matt 9:6 when Jesus was “on earth” He had been given power to forgive sins of those whom He thought was deserving as this sick man, as the thief on the cross.

—The sick man in Mark 2 and the thief on the cross are not examples of how we today are saved under the NT gospel. These events took place before Christ died and His NT came into effect, Heb 9:16-17.

—The fact Jesus forgave the sick man his sins does not mean we today can be saved with repentance, confession or baptism. Note the text does not say the sick had any confession of faith. So this does not prove one can be saved/have forgiven of sins apart from confession belief/faith.

Jesus did have the ability to know the hearts of these 5 men that they had the proper attitude about Christ that moved them to do the faithful work of bringing this man to Christ where by the sick man would receive blessings from Christ; both spiritual (forgiveness of sins) and physical (healed of sickness).

Had they not had this attitude toward Christ then they would never done the faithful work in coming to Christ (the sick man consenting with them in bringing him to Christ) and would not received the spiritual and physical blessings Christ gives.

“COME UNTO ME, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.”
Coming to Christ is obedience.


156 posted on 10/12/2020 9:21:09 AM PDT by Oneanddone
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