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Cardinal grants Catholic state-funeral to Canadian politician with key role in legalizing abortion
LifeSite News ^ | October 7, 2020 | Lianne Laurence

Posted on 10/07/2020 11:19:37 AM PDT by ebb tide

Cardinal grants Catholic state-funeral to Canadian politician with key role in legalizing abortion

Commented one pro-life leader: 'The whole thing is a scandal on the part of the bishops of Canada, and it’s a scandal on the part of Cardinal Collins'


State funeral for John Turner in Catholic Church, Toronto, Ontario, Oct. 6, 2020.

TORONTO, October 7, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) — Toronto Cardinal Thomas Collins granted a Catholic state-funeral, amidst fanfare and accolades, to former prime minister of Canada John Turner who oversaw the passage of a 1969 bill that, in effect, brought abortion to the country and opened the floodgates to the slaughter of some 100,000 preborn children annually. 

Turner’s funeral took place on Tuesday at St. Michael’s Cathedral, where Collins, who attended the event, serves as Archbishop. Turner died at home September 19 at age 91.Image
State funeral for John Turner in Catholic Church, Toronto, Ontario, Oct. 6, 2020. SOURCE: CTV News / video screen grab

The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation live-streamed the event, which included four eulogies before the Mass, the first delivered by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, arguably Canada’s most pro-abortion prime minister.

“John shared a vision with my father, and that is what led him to completely transform the Criminal Code,” said Trudeau. This may have been an oblique reference to the infamous Omnibus Bill that Turner tabled as justice minister in 1969 under Liberal Prime Minister Pierre Elliot Trudeau. 

Passed on May 14, 1969, the bill kept abortion in the Criminal Code but permitted it under certain circumstances, thus opening the doors to abortion on demand, and resulting in an estimated five million Canadian children killed in the womb since then. The bill also decriminalized homosexuality and contraception. The Supreme Court struck the law down as unconstitutional in 1988, and Parliament has since passed no legislation on abortion, which is currently allowed during all nine months of pregnancy in Canada.

‘Whole thing is a scandal’

That Cardinal Collins allowed Turner’s state funeral to take place at the Cathedral is a “scandal” but not unexpected, said Jim Hughes, retired president of Campaign Life Coalition, Canada’s national pro-life political lobbying group.

“We could say we’re not surprised. Nothing surprises us in regard to this,” given the history of the bishops and the Liberal Party, he said.ImageJohn Turner announcing Liberal candidacy c. 1968. SOURCE: Library and Archives Canada

That history known to pro-life advocates has been documented in Paul Litt’s 2012 biography of Turner “Elusive Destiny: The Political Vocation of John Napier Turner.”

In 1969 Turner met with the executive of the Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops (CCCB) to obtain advice on the Omnibus Bill, and he told the bishops that the law was the best his Liberal Party could do, Litt wrote.

According to Litt, then-CCCB president Bishop Alexander Carter responded, “Gentlemen, I think John has convinced us. Let’s have a drink.” 

Turner also consulted St. Michael’s University College theological faculty members, including Rev. Robert W. Crooker, who advised that while a Catholic should oppose the abortion bill, Turner also had responsibilities to his government, relates a review of Litt’s book by Interim editor Paul Tuns.

Turner received a similar opinion from an unnamed “Dominican theologian from Universities Laval” in Montreal, who also said that Catholic legislators must not impose their morals on others. 

But while Litt cast Turner as struggling with his conscience, Tuns suggested that the justice minister might well have “cherry-picked” theologians to get the answer he wanted.

What Turner believed, or thought, or was given to believe, “the bottom line is, there is right, and there is wrong,” pointed out Hughes.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: abortion; babykiller; franciscardinal; francischism; heretic; homosexualagenda; murder; thomascollins

1 posted on 10/07/2020 11:19:37 AM PDT by ebb tide
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2 posted on 10/07/2020 11:20:15 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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3 posted on 10/07/2020 11:26:41 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: ebb tide

“The road to hell is paved with the skulls of erring priests, with bishops as their signposts.”

St. John Chrysostom


4 posted on 10/07/2020 11:27:51 AM PDT by JerryBlackwell (some animals are more equal than others)
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To: ebb tide

After a short interval, some pranksters could go to his gravesite late at night, put on robes as a disguise, and conduct an old style “Bell, book and candle” excommunication *in Latin* on his grave. And maybe burn a small amount of sulfur to give the place a lingering odor.

Make a low quality video of it, with little more than his headstone recognizable. Then put it on the Internet with a false title, like “Satanic ritual”. It will be quickly recognized as not Satanic, but Catholic, and the ritual of excommunication. Finally someone will ID the headstone.

And that is where the fun begins.


5 posted on 10/07/2020 11:56:59 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("All men and women were created by the, you know, you know, the thing." -- Joe Biden 3/3/20)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

The “Catholic Church” lost all moral authority so long ago I can’t hardly remember. To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, I did not leave the Catholic Church, the Catholic Church left me !!


6 posted on 10/07/2020 12:28:13 PM PDT by DrHFrog
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Wasnt Reagan Protestant ? I thought he was Presbyterian.....
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don’t remember much hubbub about him being Catholic during his elections... although he did enjoy the Pope....


7 posted on 10/07/2020 1:22:17 PM PDT by MurphsLaw (“But now if you have a purse, take it.. and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one)
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Wasnt Reagan Protestant ? I thought he was Presbyterian.....

It was a paraphrase. The poster was citing Reagan, only exchanging the term "Catholic Church" for "Democrat Party".

Reagan's father was Catholic, and older brother Neil "Moon" Reagan was Catholic. Reagan's father had an alcohol problem, and once he wasn't involved much with the family, his mother ("Church of the Nazarene" I believe) no longer felt obligated to raise the children Catholic.

I seemed to remember Reagan was last attending Methodist churches, but I could be mistaken.
8 posted on 10/07/2020 1:33:28 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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Okay, I looked it up, and Nelle Reagan was “Disciples of Christ”, not “Church of the Nazarene”.


9 posted on 10/07/2020 1:39:12 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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yes Thanks.... a "duh" moment on my part... remember the Reagan/ Dem party line well... on second thought now.... the analogy is even more clumsy than at first glance...

For it is exactly what The Church does as the Body of Christ - and what it has always been tasked to do - Gather into its world those who seek Truth - and is much more the than the occasional Priest/Bishop gone bad gotcha headline(s) of the day. In fact one of the main purposes of the Church is to fight the heresies of the day against the Church - which it has constantly done over the centuries...
And without that authority to suppress the radical notions against Church teaching or Doctrine- the Church would have ceased to exist long ago.
Its in the DNA of the Church to engage the untruthful. Those who seek out the devil will be very surprised when they actually do get to meet him....

10 posted on 10/07/2020 3:45:11 PM PDT by MurphsLaw (“But now if you have a purse, take it.. and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one)
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To: MurphsLaw
In fact one of the main purposes of the Church is to fight the heresies of the day against the Church - which it has constantly done over the centuries...until the Second Vatican Council in which the Church promoted and approved heresies.
11 posted on 10/07/2020 5:09:37 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: MurphsLaw
The Principal Errors of Vatican II

The Principal Heresies and Other Errors of Vatican II

12 posted on 10/07/2020 5:16:22 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Just another confirmation the institution historically known as the Catholic Church is no longer Catholic.


13 posted on 10/07/2020 8:50:01 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (Read the "color revolution" election analysis of Darren Beattie (frightening!).)
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To: MurphsLaw
Its in the DNA of the Church to engage the untruthful.

It's certainly not in the DNA of Jorge Bergoglio. He warmly embraces, with open arms: abortionists, homosexuals and and the murderous muslims because "proselytism is a sin".

14 posted on 10/08/2020 9:18:20 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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