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To: jmacusa
There are some great missions to Muslims (in Muslims countries), believe it or not. And they have been very effective. There has actually been quite a large wave of Muslims converting to Christianity...a wonderful things to behold.

And if I am not mistaken, Jesus went to the Cross for ALL humans.

15 posted on 09/08/2020 3:22:21 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux; jmacusa
And if I am not mistaken, Jesus went to the Cross for ALL humans.

He did indeed sir. I think one of the most Godly men I have ever known, in Texas, was an Ex Muslim from Iran. What a pillar of faith he was.

21 posted on 09/08/2020 5:14:55 AM PDT by Mark17 (USAF Retired. Father of a US Air Force commissioned officer, and trained Air Force combat pilot.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Correct - I know a dozen odd Iranians living in various parts of Europe and a few Iranians living IN Iran. All of them left Islam - but those in Iran left it secretly (or they would be killed).

The vast majority of Muslims do NOT read the Quran because

  1. it is in Old Arabic - 80% of the muslim world does not know Arabic at all, and among the rest, next to none can read Old Arabic (Classic Arabic)
  2. Even if they read it, the Quran is
    1. not arranged chronologically but by the length of the chapters (sura)
    2. has abrogation - later (chronologically later) verses cancel out chronologically earlier verses.
    3. It refers to events like in the above "tell people about x" and doesn't say much - like going to a stranger's family gathering where everyone is talking about people you have no idea about doing things you have no idea about

  3. To fully understand it you need to read the Sira - the biography of "Mo" written 200 years after he allegedly lived
  4. And the hadiths - all of them written 200 years after this Mo allegedly lived, and
  5. The Hadiths are checked by "hadith science" - namely that they say Hadith X123.44 is accurate because it was compiled by Bukhari who heard from Daulat who heard from Ahmed's brother-in-law's cousin Ejaz that his grandfather, Farid, had heard from Garima who heard from a companion of the profit, Halouma, that Mo once did something" - yeah, that's their version of "science" - that these were "honest" tellers

And they give up and believe what they are told.

Ditto for what they are told about Christianity - and their "Jesus" is a fictional character, not the real Jesus, Lord, God and Savior

24 posted on 09/08/2020 6:32:51 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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