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[Barf Alert] Neonunzism’: Left-wing Catholic pundits attack nun at RNC who gave powerful pro-life speech
LifeSite News ^ | August 27, 2020 | Dorothy Cummings McLean

Posted on 08/27/2020 5:12:29 PM PDT by ebb tide

[Barf Alert] ‘Neonunzism’: Left-wing Catholic pundits attack nun at RNC who gave powerful pro-life speech

The army doctor who became a nun described Biden-Harris as the ‘most anti-life presidential ticket ever’ because together they support even ‘late-term abortion and infanticide’

VILLANOVA, PA, August 26, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) ― Left-wing Catholic media pundits have attacked a powerful pro-life speech by the army surgeon-turned-mother superior who spoke at the Republican Party’s National Convention last night.

Massimo Faggioli, a professor of Catholic theology at Villanova University took to social media to protest the appearance of Sister Deirdre “Dede” Byrne, POSC. He posted several messages on Facebook in response to her speech where she called Americans to “stand up for life against the politically correct or fashionable of today” and described Biden-Harris as “the most anti-life presidential ticket ever” because together they support even “late-term abortion and infanticide.”

The professor also retweeted an Italian psychiatrist’s post that described Sister Dede’s heartfelt speech as “Neonunzism.” Bellissima,” i.e. “Beautiful”, he replied to Cristiano M. Gaston.

Faggioli’s first critique of the American nun, written over a video of her speech, was “Ho il voltastomaco”, i.e. “I’m sick to my stomach.” 

A few hours later Faggioli added

“The Catholic Church has rules for the participation of clergy and religious in the election campaign and party politics, but obviously here in the USA now nobody cares.”  

To this, he posted a page from the Catechism of the Catholic Church that clearly applies only to priests. 

Priests are usually forbidden from partisan politics, including running for public office or joining unions, “unless, according to the judgement of the ecclesiastical authority, the rights of the Church and the defence of the common good require it.  Even then, however, the Church deems the activity “foreign to the clerical state.”

Religious sisters, even mother superiors like Sister Dede Byrne, are not clerics. They do, however, take oaths of obedience to their religious superiors. Byrne has indeed already circumscribed her civic activities at the behest of her religious order, having retired from the military’s Medical Corps after a tour of duty in Afghanistan. 

In response to objections that America magazine’s editor-at-large Fr. James Martin, S.J. had spoken at the Democratic Party’s National Convention,  Faggioli said that there was “there is a substantial difference between delivering a prayer to a party convention and a partisan speech like this.” 

The professor was then informed by other Twitter-users that Sister Simone Campbell had appeared at the DNC on more than one occasion. At the 2012 DNC, she gave a short speech. Sister Simone, when recently asked about her organization’s stance on legal abortion, replied: “That is not our issue. That is not it. It is above my pay grade.” 

This low pay grade may be Sister Simone’s catchphrase: she said something similar in 2012. 

Fr. James Martin, S.J. himself posted opposition to Sister Dede’s speech on Facebook this morning, saying that members of religious orders shouldn’t “endorse or campaign.” 

“Here is what bishops, priests, members of religious orders and Catholic organizations (including magazines) should do in an election season: pray and educate,” the pro-LGBT Jesuit priest said. 

Martin said that no candidate or party “ever could” fully encompass the totality of Church teaching and that Catholics are not “one-issue voters.” He also stated that endorsing candidates “splits dioceses and parishes” into “supposedly ‘Good Catholics’ and ‘Bad Catholics’.”  

The priest declared that is “not a sin to vote either Democrat or Republican; nor is it a sin to vote for either Mr. Trump or Mr. Biden.” 

Catholic author John Gerard Lewis, however, in his book Catholic Voting and Mortal Sin: How Your Vote Can Endanger Your Salvation, makes the case that “voting for the candidate who least adheres to the Church’s teaching on abortion can be a mortal sin.” A number of pro-life priests have made the case that Catholics cannot in good conscience vote for Biden. 

Martin went on to bring up the specter of the Church losing her tax-exempt status. 

“We would (and should) lose that privilege if we were to engage in partisan politics,” said the DNC 2020 participant.

“Catholic leaders obviously have their own thoughts about political matters, but in public and in their public roles, they should be religious, not partisan.  For all these reasons, we can pray and educate, but not endorse or campaign.”

He repeated the message on Twitter

To Martin’s credit, when he prayed for the DNC this year, he listed the “unborn child in the womb” as one of “those most in need.” 

Sister Simone Campell neglected to mention the unborn. Instead she characterized the DNC gathering as “an important next chapter in our story of who we will become as a nation.”


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: bidenvoters; faggioli; faggotioli; franciscatholics; jamesmartin; jesuits; martin; massimofaggioli
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To: BillyBoy; ebb tide

I think the more important distinction is that sisters/nuns do not receive the sacrament of holy orders, they are not “ordained” in any way, and have neither its privileges or obligations.


21 posted on 08/27/2020 10:02:25 PM PDT by Marchmain (i vote pro-life)
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To: ebb tide

She was TERRIFIC !


22 posted on 08/27/2020 10:21:31 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guv-mint you get is the Trump winning express ! Yea haw ! Trump pence II!)
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To: View from the Cheap Seats

We went from a Pope who helped to end Communism, to a Pope who is helping to bring it back.


23 posted on 08/27/2020 10:22:39 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Indeed, but your post summed it up much better.

Sister Dede Byrne is instantly recognizable as a deeply devout, sincere Catholic nun. She has clearly dedicated her life to serving God.

The ONLY way anyone would realize "Sister" Simone is a "nun" is she constantly goes around in public SAYING so, in order to use it to further whatever leftist political issue she's talking about. If you look at any photo of her, she looks like any other hard-left feminazi. She's fit right in with Ruth Bader Ginsburg, for example.


24 posted on 08/27/2020 11:30:06 PM PDT by BillyBoy ("States rights" is NOT a suicide pact.)
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To: BillyBoy
My favorite speech at the convention. Sister Byrne is a remarkable woman and it was a delight to see her wearing the entire habit.

She represents the true Church. The other one, of Sister Simone and Fr. Martin, is destroying itself.

25 posted on 08/27/2020 11:50:15 PM PDT by Robwin ( very)
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To: BillyBoy

I was incorrect in that Simone obviously “worked” before her becoming a “nun”, though it seems rather obvious given her clothing that she didn’t take a vow of poverty. More typical of the hypocrisy of the left.

Of course, given her radical personal ideology, which is antithetical to the Word of God, she is no more a “Catholic nun” than most of those claiming Jewish heritage in Hollyweird are actual Jews.


26 posted on 08/27/2020 11:58:01 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Want Stalinazism More ? PLUGS-WHORE 2020 !)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Yep, Simone is a “Catholic nun” the same way Bernie Sanders is a “Jew” ... on paper only.


27 posted on 08/28/2020 9:09:25 AM PDT by BillyBoy ("States rights" is NOT a suicide pact.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

And yeah, Simone “worked” as a lawyer, filing lawsuits to harass people over frivolous things, while Sister Dude was an Army surgeon saving lives on the front lives. So private sector careers comparable to John Edwards and Ben Carson.


28 posted on 08/28/2020 9:14:38 AM PDT by BillyBoy ("States rights" is NOT a suicide pact.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

And yeah, Simone “worked” as a lawyer, filing lawsuits to harass people over frivolous things, while Sister Dede was an Army surgeon saving lives on the front lines. So private sector careers comparable to John Edwards and Ben Carson.


29 posted on 08/28/2020 9:15:09 AM PDT by BillyBoy ("States rights" is NOT a suicide pact.)
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To: ebb tide
Massimo Faggioli, a professor... at Villanova University...

Translation: Maximum Beans. No wonder he moved to America. Middle school must have been hell.

30 posted on 08/28/2020 10:04:58 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice." --Donald Trump)
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