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Mary and Jesus More Closely Related than we may have Thought.. Holy DNA !
Defenders of the Catholic Faith Ministry ^ | 8-21-2020 | Steve Ray

Posted on 08/26/2020 1:41:57 PM PDT by MurphsLaw

The scientific word is “microchimerism”. It is the transfer of cells from the baby’s body into the mother’s body and the transfer of cells of the mother’s body in the baby’s body. These cells of the baby remain in the mothers’ body after birth. Very interesting indeed when considering the relationship between Jesus and his mother Mary.

The microchimerism website says,

“Microchimerism is the harboring of small numbers of cells that originated in a genetically different individual.

During pregnancy some cells traffic from the mother to the fetus and from the fetus to the mother. Surprisingly, a small number of the mother’s cells persist in her offspring, including into adult life. And a small number of cells from prior pregnancies persist in mothers many years later. It has only recently become apparent that naturally-acquired microchimerism is common in humans.”

(http://www.microchimerism.org)
The new scientific discovery of microchimerism informs us that some of the cells of the God-Man Jesus remained in the body of Mary. At his gestation and after his birth, Jesus left microscopic bits of his own divine cellular being inside his mother. Was Mary then a tabernacle of the Divine? Yes, not only during the pregnancy but also forever after.

Smithsonian Magazine informs us, “This cellular invasion means that mothers carry unique genetic material from their children’s bodies, creating what biologists call a microchimera, named after the legendary beasts made of different animals. The phenomenon is widespread among mammals, and scientists have proposed a number of theories for how it affects the mother, from better wound healing to higher risk of cancer.”

We speak of Mary being the Ark of the New Covenant. The Ark of the Old Covenant in the Old Testament contained 1) the Word of God inscribed on stone, 2) an urn of manna, and 3) Aaron the High Priest’s rod that budded (Heb 9:4).

Mary is the Ark of the New Covenant and in her womb was 1) the Word of God inscribed on flesh, 2) the real bread which came down from heaven, and 3) the real and ultimate, eternal High Priest.

But science now informs us that Mary was the Ark of the Covenant that carried God Himself not only for nine months but for the remainder of her existence. Mary was — and indeed still is — the Ark of the New Covenant and the repository of the Divine.

What other woman has this relationship with God in the flesh? She is the beloved daughter of the Father, the chosen mother of the Son, and the chaste spouse of the Holy Spirit. What other woman has such a relationship with the Trinity?

And now that science has discovered microchimerism, we realize now that May is perpetually the tabernacle of the Divine. As a Protestant, I thought Mary was non-essential and not important. Catholics made too big a deal of Mary. Boy, was I wrong. I love being a Catholic!


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To: MurphsLaw; faucetman
We pray the "Hail Mary"- as each Verse of that prayer IS IN THE BIBLE - for the Blessed Virgin to Pray FOR us sinners, until we die....

Ummm...no, it's not. The angel Gabriel appeared to Mary to announce she would be the Christ bearer:

    In the sixth month, God sent the angel Gabriel to a town in Galilee called Nazareth, to a virgin pledged in marriage to a man named Joseph, who was of the house of David. And the virgin’s name was Mary. The angel appeared to her and said, “Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.” Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. So the angel told her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. Behold, you will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to give Him the name Jesus. He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David, and He will reign over the house of Jacob forever. His kingdom will never end!” “How can this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?” The angel replied, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the Holy One to be born will be called the Son of God. Look, even Elizabeth your relative has conceived a son in her old age, and she who was called barren is in her sixth month. For no word from God will ever fail.” “I am the Lord’s servant,” Mary answered. “May it happen to me according to your word.” Then the angel left her.

    And Mary arose in those days, and went into the hill country with haste, into a city of Juda; And entered into the house of Zacharias, and saluted Elisabeth. And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost: And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb. And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy. And blessed is she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord.(Luke 1:26-45)

Maybe you can parse some words together from Gabriel and Elisabeth's greetings to Mary (it wasn't a "prayer") for the first half of the Catholic prayer to Mary (the Hail Mary), but the second part is all fabricated and not "IN THE BIBLE". Besides, we direct our prayers to God alone.

For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another. (Isaiah 48:11)

221 posted on 08/27/2020 7:40:58 PM PDT by boatbums (Come unto me all you who are burdened and heavy laden - for my yoke is easy and my burden is light.)
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To: MurphsLaw
Ok good.... what do you think about Mary sharing - as all mothers do then - with their Child- and that the child ALSO receives cell transfer from the mother... do they - or dont they - SHARE biological material then???

I read the article. It's not the first time the subject's come up on this site, either. Obviously, the child shares the parent's DNA genetic properties though he/she is a completely unique individual. What kind of "cells" are transferred to the mother and from the mother to the child isn't fully known but they are microscopic.

For example, if the mother's blood RH (Rhesus) factor is negative and the baby's father's is positive, there will be a transference of some blood cells at birth from the RH positive baby to the mother which will cause a problem in subsequent pregnancies. The mother's immune system will play havoc with the developing child if it is RH positive.

    From https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/rh-factor/about/pac-20394960:

    During pregnancy, problems can occur if you're Rh negative and the baby you're carrying is Rh positive. Usually, your blood doesn't mix with your baby's blood during pregnancy. However, a small amount of your baby's blood could come in contact with your blood during delivery or if you experience bleeding or abdominal trauma during pregnancy. If you're Rh negative and your baby is Rh positive, your body might produce proteins called Rh antibodies after exposure to the baby's red blood cells.

    The antibodies produced aren't a problem during the first pregnancy. The concern is with your next pregnancy. If your next baby is Rh positive, these Rh antibodies can cross the placenta and damage the baby's red blood cells. This could lead to life-threatening anemia, a condition in which red blood cells are destroyed faster than the baby's body can replace them. Red blood cells are needed to carry oxygen throughout the body.

    If you're Rh negative, you might need to have another blood test — an antibody screen — during your first trimester, during week 28 of pregnancy and at delivery. The antibody screen is used to detect antibodies to Rh positive blood. If you haven't started to produce Rh antibodies, you'll likely need an injection of a blood product called Rh immune globulin. The immune globulin prevents your body from producing Rh antibodies during your pregnancy.

    If your baby is born Rh negative, no additional treatment is needed. If your baby is born Rh positive, you'll need another injection shortly after delivery.

    If you're Rh negative and your baby might be or is Rh positive, your health care provider might recommend an Rh immune globulin injection after situations in which your blood could come into contact with the baby's blood, including:

As to additional non-genetic cell transfers and whether or not they remain in the mother, the child and siblings is a new field.

What you should be thinking about is the human flesh and blood, earthly body is transformed at glorification and is different. Our earth bodies and eternally glorified, like unto Christ's glorified bodies are NOT the same. How specifically they are different is a mystery. A resurrected body will come into being even if the dead human body is nothing but dust, scattered to the four winds, obliterated or still intact in a coffin. We will be "changed", this corruptible will be incorruptible.

222 posted on 08/27/2020 8:11:27 PM PDT by boatbums (Come unto me all you who are burdened and heavy laden - for my yoke is easy and my burden is light.)
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To: Elsie

> “but then WHO is that OLD fella in my mirror?”

In case your quip is a real query…. Clearly the quality of the new cells decline over the years – the result of a number of factors such as a reduction in the supply of various material for making new cells, and less efficiency in the overall process.

But the ultimate cause is because we are made so that we grow old, hence all the aging mechanisms, but you know what? We are also supposed to be on our feet until the day we die, so illness is not a given as we grow old.


223 posted on 08/27/2020 8:30:36 PM PDT by sun7
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To: boatbums; MurphsLaw
...but the second part is all fabricated and not "IN THE BIBLE".

Do you not see the connect between "Mother of God" with "mother of my Lord"?

224 posted on 08/27/2020 8:33:04 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Do you Catholics believe Mary existed BEFORE God? Or, is as ancient as God? Do you Catholics believe Jesus did not exist until a body was provided for Him?


225 posted on 08/27/2020 8:50:26 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: ebb tide; MurphsLaw
...but the second part is all fabricated and not "IN THE BIBLE".

Do you not see the connect between "Mother of God" with "mother of my Lord"?

Do you not see that my response addressed the false claim of:

We pray the "Hail Mary"- as each Verse of that prayer IS IN THE BIBLE - for the Blessed Virgin to Pray FOR us sinners, until we die....

226 posted on 08/27/2020 8:57:37 PM PDT by boatbums (Come unto me all you who are burdened and heavy laden - for my yoke is easy and my burden is light.)
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To: boatbums; MurphsLaw

The Blessed Mother is praying to God for us sinners.

And you have a problem with that?

Incredible.


227 posted on 08/27/2020 9:03:26 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

More Catholic wish-egesis.

You can’t mindread, remember?


228 posted on 08/27/2020 9:08:06 PM PDT by boatbums (Come unto me all you who are burdened and heavy laden - for my yoke is easy and my burden is light.)
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To: boatbums

Never claimed I could.

But you haven’t responded to, “mother of my Lord” being in the Bible.


229 posted on 08/27/2020 9:12:03 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: boatbums
[34] And Simeon blessed them, and said to Mary his mother: Behold this child is set for the fall, and for the resurrection of many in Israel, and for a sign which shall be contradicted; [35] And thy own soul a sword shall pierce, that, out of many hearts, thoughts may be revealed. Luke Chapter 2
230 posted on 08/27/2020 9:23:35 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

I am truly curious as to how you believe the passage you posted is in any way related to what boatbums is pointing out for you. Care to explain for a change?


231 posted on 08/27/2020 11:40:27 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MurphsLaw
Well, I’m sure you’d agree Christianity is fundamentally provocative. You Also would have to agree not all my posts are provocative.... and for balance, I even receive the ire of some of my rad trad Catholic friends in the forum... and do not fear digging deeper....

Yes, the TradCaths and radtrad RCs with their sects are quite numerous here and consider themselves to be the faithful RCs, but I do not see you actually challenging them much, meanwhile I am not telling you not to post anti-evangelical provocative articles (and usually it is RCs promoting their church, not evangelicals challenging them), but that if you do then do not complain about them being refuted and your arguments being exposed as sophistry, and shown to actually be an argument against being a Catholic.

In essence you are not posting anything new with your promotions of Rome, for as a newbie here and missed out on the years of wars between those who used FR as RC propaganda organ and those who posted articles attacking her, and thus much of what I respond with is from past responses since the basic specious RC arguments are nothing new, while it remains that distinctive Catholic teachings are not manifest in the only wholly inspired substantive authoritative record of what the NT church believed (which is Scripture, in particular Acts through Revelation, which best shows how the NT church understood the gospels).

Ecumenically speaking, I attempted to show you that Caths share common ground with the Reformation rebels in that we share common ground in the generation of Mary. And if Mary was part of God’s plan for bringing Salvation into this world.... we just feel then that’s something to love and latch onto, without diminishing Christ

Please. You only spoke of the views of Reformers views on Mary in post 183 in your absurd response to my mention of the Assumption being made dogma over 1700 years after the even allegedly happened. And my reproof was not in any denial that Mary was indeed part of God’s plan for bringing Salvation into this world, and men and women before and after her were also, but it is the hyper-exaltation of the Mary of Catholicism that you are being part of, and which surely does diminish Christ. Not with Mary being claimed by Catholic popes and saints etc as,

...in the supernatural and spiritual generation there is a father who is God and a mother who is Mary; she is Mother of her Creator...through Whom the Holy Trinity is sanctified; The power thus put into her (Mary’s) hands is all but unlimited; surpassing in power all the angels and saints in Heaven; At the command of Mary all obey, even God. She is omnipotent; Virgin most powerful; the greatness of the power which she wields over one who is God cannot be conceived; all in heaven and on earth, even God himself, is subject to the Blessed Virgin...she seems to have the same power as God. Her prayers and requests are so powerful with him that he accepts them as commands in the sense that he never resists his dear mother’s prayer because it is always humble and conformed to his will; when she acts, it is also He who acts; and that if her intervention be not accepted, neither is His.... Her position as "the first of all creatures, the most acceptable child of God, the nearest and dearest to him".. through her alone does He dispense His favours and His gifts; there is no grace which Mary cannot dispose of as her own, which is not given to her for this purpose;" above the Cherubim and higher than the Seraphim, right near God Himself!; Mary has authority over the angels and the blessed in heaven...God gave her the power and the mission of assigning to saints the thrones made vacant by the apostate angels who fell away through pride....all the angels in heaven unceasingly call out to her...They greet her countless times each day with the angelic greeting, "Hail, Mary", while prostrating themselves before her, begging her as a favour to honour them with one of her requests...The whole world is filled with her glory...Whatever desires the patriarchs may have cherished, whatever entreaties the prophets and saints of the Old Law may have had for 4,000 years to obtain that treasure, it was Mary alone who merited it; sometimes salvation is quicker if we remember Mary's name then if we invoked the name of the Lord Jesus; No one achieves salvation except through you...No one receives grace except through you; Thou are all-powerful in saving sinners; Beware, chosen soul, of thinking that it is more perfect to direct your work and intention straight to Jesus or straight to God; Lady in heaven, we have but one advocate, and that is thyself, and thou alone art truly loving and solicitous for our salvation; through her are obtained every hope, every grace, and all salvation. For this is his will, that we obtain everything through Mary; in Heaven we have but one advocate, and that is Thyself; and that Thou alone art truly loving and solicitous for our welfare; .you love us with a love that no other love can surpass. How often you appease the wrath of our Divine Judge, when He is on the point of punishing us! All the treasures of the mercy of God are in your hands; she had to suffer, as He did, all the consequences of sin. It was not only during the Passion that Jesus and Mary suffered for our sins; We were condemned through the fault of one woman; we are saved through the merits of another woman; to her, Jesus owes His Precious Blood...

Sources and more.

232 posted on 08/28/2020 5:13:19 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: MHGinTN
...we may presume …

This gets me in WAY too much troble!

233 posted on 08/28/2020 5:29:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN

Time was invented by Mother Nature to make sure that everything doesn’t happen at once.


234 posted on 08/28/2020 5:29:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN

They sure can disappear quickly!


235 posted on 08/28/2020 5:30:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom

My wife came from a large family. She was 12 when left behind at a rest area. Sleeping, everyone but her had bailed to use the bathroom. She awoke, found everyone gone, also went to the bathroom; however, somehow missing everyone else, who were piling back into the station wagon. They were miles down the road before somebody noticed she was gone!


236 posted on 08/28/2020 5:34:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MurphsLaw
...we just feel then that’s something to love and latch onto, without diminishing Christ.

Yup...

(love and latch onto)N



237 posted on 08/28/2020 5:38:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums
“Only in his hometown and in his own household is a prophet without honor.”

If Jesus were an only child; wouldn't this phrase kinda condemn Mary and Joseph?

238 posted on 08/28/2020 5:41:05 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums
Let's see how this works; paraphrasing with the most common 'explanation'...
 
 
Then Jesus’ mother and brothers came to see Him, but they were unable to reach Him because of the crowd. He was told, “Your mother and cousins are standing outside, wanting to see You.” But He replied, “My mother and cousins are those who hear the word of God and carry it out.” (Luke 8:19-21)

While Jesus was still speaking to the crowds, His mother and cousins stood outside, wanting to speak to Him. (Matthew 12:46)

Then Jesus' mother and cousins came and stood outside. They sent someone in to summon Him, (Mark 3:31)

“Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t His mother’s name Mary, and aren’t His cousins James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas? Aren’t all His sisters with us as well? Where then did this man get all these things?” And they took offense at Him. But Jesus said to them, “Only in his hometown and in his own household is a prophet without honor.” (Matthew 13:55-57)
 
 
 
sisters = cousins; too???

239 posted on 08/28/2020 5:44:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
I do!!!!

"of "


240 posted on 08/28/2020 5:47:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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