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Mary and Jesus More Closely Related than we may have Thought.. Holy DNA !
Defenders of the Catholic Faith Ministry ^ | 8-21-2020 | Steve Ray

Posted on 08/26/2020 1:41:57 PM PDT by MurphsLaw

The scientific word is “microchimerism”. It is the transfer of cells from the baby’s body into the mother’s body and the transfer of cells of the mother’s body in the baby’s body. These cells of the baby remain in the mothers’ body after birth. Very interesting indeed when considering the relationship between Jesus and his mother Mary.

The microchimerism website says,

“Microchimerism is the harboring of small numbers of cells that originated in a genetically different individual.

During pregnancy some cells traffic from the mother to the fetus and from the fetus to the mother. Surprisingly, a small number of the mother’s cells persist in her offspring, including into adult life. And a small number of cells from prior pregnancies persist in mothers many years later. It has only recently become apparent that naturally-acquired microchimerism is common in humans.”

(http://www.microchimerism.org)
The new scientific discovery of microchimerism informs us that some of the cells of the God-Man Jesus remained in the body of Mary. At his gestation and after his birth, Jesus left microscopic bits of his own divine cellular being inside his mother. Was Mary then a tabernacle of the Divine? Yes, not only during the pregnancy but also forever after.

Smithsonian Magazine informs us, “This cellular invasion means that mothers carry unique genetic material from their children’s bodies, creating what biologists call a microchimera, named after the legendary beasts made of different animals. The phenomenon is widespread among mammals, and scientists have proposed a number of theories for how it affects the mother, from better wound healing to higher risk of cancer.”

We speak of Mary being the Ark of the New Covenant. The Ark of the Old Covenant in the Old Testament contained 1) the Word of God inscribed on stone, 2) an urn of manna, and 3) Aaron the High Priest’s rod that budded (Heb 9:4).

Mary is the Ark of the New Covenant and in her womb was 1) the Word of God inscribed on flesh, 2) the real bread which came down from heaven, and 3) the real and ultimate, eternal High Priest.

But science now informs us that Mary was the Ark of the Covenant that carried God Himself not only for nine months but for the remainder of her existence. Mary was — and indeed still is — the Ark of the New Covenant and the repository of the Divine.

What other woman has this relationship with God in the flesh? She is the beloved daughter of the Father, the chosen mother of the Son, and the chaste spouse of the Holy Spirit. What other woman has such a relationship with the Trinity?

And now that science has discovered microchimerism, we realize now that May is perpetually the tabernacle of the Divine. As a Protestant, I thought Mary was non-essential and not important. Catholics made too big a deal of Mary. Boy, was I wrong. I love being a Catholic!


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To: TECTopcat

Not speaking of Catholicism, but CHRISTIAN denominations are just sortin’ stlls of ones to be snatched away soon in the Rapture Departure of The Body of Christ (think ‘body of’ as in the student body of a college).


101 posted on 08/26/2020 7:15:27 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: metmom

Not saying that. We were talking about DNA lineage and right, Jesus didn’t have Joseph’s DNA - it’d be interesting to see what His was.


102 posted on 08/26/2020 7:16:32 PM PDT by SkyDancer (~ Pilots: Looking Down On People Since 1903 ~)
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To: metmom

Understood.


103 posted on 08/26/2020 7:16:56 PM PDT by SkyDancer (~ Pilots: Looking Down On People Since 1903 ~)
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To: SaxxonWoods

“Catholics don’t worship Mary, other than those in error.”

I keep asking this and not one of you rc’s will answer.
So tell me the difference.

rcc’s pray to Mary and their god
rcc’s bow to Mary and their god
rcc’s kneel to Mary and their god
rcc’s offer sacrifice to Mary and their god
rcc’s serve Mary and their god
rcc’s get grace from Mary and from their god

I’ll be waiting...


104 posted on 08/26/2020 7:17:12 PM PDT by mrobisr (Romans 10:9-11 it's that simple)
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To: metmom

The Bible reports that in accord with the requirement of the Mosaic Law, 40 days after Jesus’ birth Mary offered at the temple in Jerusalem a sin offering for purification from uncleanness.

She, too, had inherited sin and imperfection from Adam

Lev. 12:1-8


105 posted on 08/26/2020 7:19:07 PM PDT by justme4now (Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it)
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To: SkyDancer

Scripture actually does not tell us if Jesus even had Mary’s DNA! To conceive in the womb is to have implantation in the uterine wall. Even in a surrogacy pregnancy that implantation happens and without the embryonic human have any DNA connection to the host mother.


106 posted on 08/26/2020 7:19:32 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: SkyDancer

I suppose, but never thought about it.

I’m sure if it were important, God would have included the information. But then again, had He tried to I suspect that the translators would have added a little *Hebrew/Greek meaning uncertain here* as they do in other places where the meaning of a word is not known. Like the Hebrew word *Selah*.


107 posted on 08/26/2020 7:21:16 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith.)
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To: justme4now

She would because she had a human father.


108 posted on 08/26/2020 7:24:02 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith.)
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To: MurphsLaw

Joe Montana was 4-0 in the Super Bowl and had cells from his mom.

Montana’s mom did not get MVPs trophies and Super Bowl rings.

Biology could be correct but your theology is all over the place.

Mary did not know who Jesus was until He walked out of His tomb.


109 posted on 08/26/2020 7:25:49 PM PDT by rollo tomasi
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To: Bayard

“referencing the Bible as a Catholic document”

Historian J. A. Wylie said this
It is idle in Rome to say, “I gave you the Bible, and therefore you must believe in me before you can believe in it.” The facts...conclusively dispose of this claim. Rome did not give us the Bible—she did all in her power to keep it from us; she retained it under the seal of a dead language; and when others broke that seal, and threw open its pages to all, she stood over the book, and unsheathing her fiery sword, would permit none to read the message of life, save at the peril of eternal anathema” (emphasis in original).

For you to even make a silly statement like that tells me that what I’m about to say is going to be way above your head. You have spoken nothing but rcc talking points noting more nothing less. It’s apparent that you haven’t even did the basic research about the Bible.

The Holy Bible was written by Messianic Jews not pagan Romans. The one Gentile Dr. Luke transcribed the record from those Jewish eye witnesses.

If it was collected by the rcc then why don’t you have the original autographs? You have copies just like everyone else does because the originals were collected and destroyed in persecution of the real Church and by the grace of the Lord Jesus copies survived.

As far as canonized all you have to do is read the 1st century and early 2nd century writings and you can see that a protestant Bible was already accepted long before there was a pagan rcc. Yes you rcc’s have a canonized bible, but it has books that have errors that even Mr. Magoo could see with a little bit of research. With that being said the seven you mention wasn’t removed, but your roman church added books way later.

I’ll ask you the same question that I keep asking and NEVER get a reply...

Do those 7 books belong in the Old or New Covenant?
If they are Old Covenant theology how exactly does that pertain to a New Covenant Christian?
If they are New Covenant books please explain this...
How are they New Covenant when they are clearly before Jesus Christ was manifested in the flesh at Bethlehem?
What theological significance such as salvation, heaven, or hell do they bring to the New Covenant that wasn’t clearly explained in our current New Testament?

Please help me to understand why you rcc’s hang on to those 7 books like they contain the ultimate secrets to eternal life or eternal hell.


110 posted on 08/26/2020 7:26:26 PM PDT by mrobisr (Romans 10:9-11 it's that simple)
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To: Texas_Guy

“Also read Revelations and ask why the prayers sent to the Saints,”

Chapter and verse please because I don’t recall the prayers sent to the saints

I’ll be waiting for this answer it ought to be really enlightening.


111 posted on 08/26/2020 7:30:53 PM PDT by mrobisr (Romans 10:9-11 it's that simple)
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To: Mom MD

Yes. I guess the inference was that Joseph had died.


112 posted on 08/26/2020 7:33:52 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: MHGinTN

But Yeshua must have DNA to identify his human make up, right?


113 posted on 08/26/2020 7:35:54 PM PDT by SkyDancer (~ Pilots: Looking Down On People Since 1903 ~)
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To: mrobisr

If our Bibles contained those seven books, the Catholics would have removed them at Trent and started screaming that Luther was adding to the Bible.

Just like Democrats and how they pretend to care about truth and justice. It’s all about power in the end.


114 posted on 08/26/2020 7:36:39 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: SkyDancer

True; Jesus is 100% human and 100% divine. He had to be human in order to die.

It’s when people take that fact and use it as an excuse for anti-Scriptural theology that we have a problem.


115 posted on 08/26/2020 7:38:59 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: metmom

“But Jesus did not have Joseph’s DNA.”

And neither did He have Mary’s...

Did Adam have genetic input from a earthly father or mother, no the Lord created Adam. We can also see that Melchizedek had no father or mother of earthly descent. So, if the Lord Jesus Christ is patterned after Adam and and in the order of Melchizedek which Scriptures clearly indicate He is, then He would also have to have been without earthly genetic code from any human parents, but strictly of the Father God.

Romans 5:14
14Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who is a pattern of the one to come.

1 Corinthians 15:45
So also it is written, “The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

Hebrews 7:3
Without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like the Son of God, he remains a priest perpetually.

Genesis 14:18
And Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine; now he was a priest of God Most High.

Hebrews 6:20
where Jesus has entered as a forerunner for us, having become a high priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek.


116 posted on 08/26/2020 7:41:01 PM PDT by mrobisr (Romans 10:9-11 it's that simple)
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To: Luircin

Exactly.


117 posted on 08/26/2020 7:43:23 PM PDT by SkyDancer (~ Pilots: Looking Down On People Since 1903 ~)
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To: MurphsLaw

“Its WHAT’S INSIDE THE TABERNACLE that is Worshipped”

That’s interesting I’m not really sure where you are trying to go, but I’ll be waiting eagerly for this explanation.

Mathew 23:17
“You fools and blind men! Which is more important, the gold or the temple that sanctified the gold?


118 posted on 08/26/2020 7:44:33 PM PDT by mrobisr (Romans 10:9-11 it's that simple)
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To: SkyDancer

Absolutely. HOWEVER, from whom God used human DNA to make the embryonic body of The Lord Jesus is not answered in scriptures. We are told He is a descendant from David, which automatically says He is descended from Adam. But He does not have the sin curse from Adam. So how would the catholic apologists explain that? No doubt they would say the sin curse comes from and through the father. Jesus had no human father. But the Word of God does not tell us if even a sex gamete from Mry was used in the fashioning of Jesus. We simply do not know, we speculate, but we do not know if Jesus has Mary’s mitochondria in his cells.


119 posted on 08/26/2020 7:48:29 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MurphsLaw

“Show me in the Bible where Luther’s man-made invention of Justification by “Faith Alone” can be found? ...
To the CONTRARY- I can show you in Scripture where the bible says salvation is NOT by Faith alone....(James 2:24)”

I’ll match your whole one Scripture taken out of context to my many...

Romans 4:5
But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness, If in doubt about how you are saved?

John 6
28Therefore they said to Him, “What shall we do, so that we may work the works of God?” 29Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent.”

Galatians 5:6
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything, but faith working through love.

Luke 7:50
And He said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.”

Hebrews 11 All of it!

Ephesians 3:17

Galatians 2:20 & 3:7 & 2:16 & 3:24

2 Corinthians 13:5

Col 1:23

Romans 3:22 & 1:17 & 3:30 & 4:5 & 4:11 & 4:16 & 9:30 & 10:4 ,,,,9:32

Acts 3:16

Philippians 3:9

Hebrews 11:7

Habakkuk 2:4

But the righteous will live by his faith

Wishful thinking really...


120 posted on 08/26/2020 7:49:43 PM PDT by mrobisr (Romans 10:9-11 it's that simple)
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