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To: Maudeen
I was listening to a Bible teacher, JD Farag, and he was commenting on this passage:

2nd Thessalonians 2:3, "Let no man deceive you by any means, for that day shall not come, except there come a departing first, and that the man of sin be disclosed, even the son of perdition"

He said that almost every Bible translation prior to the King James renders the Greek word "apostasia" as "departed," but everything starting with the King James renders it "falling away" which renders that passage very differently.

Food for thought...

17 posted on 08/16/2020 5:34:30 PM PDT by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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To: ducttape45

I haven’t listened to his Bible Prophecy update yet. Thanks for the reminder.


23 posted on 08/16/2020 5:43:57 PM PDT by Maudeen (www.thereishopeinJesus.com)
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To: ducttape45

Not really. Apostasia is the same thing as apostasy, which means turning away, or falling from faith. It can’t mean departing, as in being raptured.


25 posted on 08/16/2020 5:48:48 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: ducttape45

it actually says ...a falling away which is a defection from the truth. We are clearly seeing that now. MANY have turned from the truth and love the lie.


31 posted on 08/16/2020 6:00:36 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: ducttape45
The Greek has a definite article before 'Apostasia' thus rendering it a proper noun, THE Departure. The Departure was how the English translations read until the Douey Rheims translated it the rebellion during the Protestand reformation. The King James Protestant translators then rendered it the falling away (from Rome, one would presume).

The rendering of the root verb refers to a physical departure fifteen times in the New Testament, so a physical departure could be a good rendering. Andy Woods taught a Sunday School lesson on this very verse today

36 posted on 08/16/2020 6:04:12 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: ducttape45

note.


39 posted on 08/16/2020 6:18:54 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... (Had I brought Christ with me, the outcome would have been different. Dr.Eric Cunningham)
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To: ducttape45

JD is pretty spot on.
I think the word departing brings home more meaning than “falling away”, in more ways that we comprehend.


86 posted on 08/18/2020 9:18:28 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
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