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[Catholic Caucus] All Seminarians to Learn the Traditional Latin Mass
Gloria TV ^ | August 13, 2020 | Gloria TV

Posted on 08/13/2020 4:50:32 PM PDT by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] All Seminarians to Learn the Traditional Latin Mass

US Archbishop Wants ALL His Seminarians to Learn the Traditional Latin Mass


The Benedict XVI Institute published on August 10 an interesting online discussion with priests and laypeople who promote the Traditional Latin Mass in the United States. The most prominent guest was San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone

US Archbishop Cordileone Defends Latin

Archbishop Cordileone stressed that the Church abolished Latin and introduced the vernacular exactly at the wrong time. Now, more than ever, we need a universal language of the Church because of migration and tourism, he explained. Cordileone believes that Latin could be re-introduced. Quote: “What was universal before, could be universal now.” And, “We need to open that door.” The archbishop revealed that he wants his seminarians to learn the Traditional Latin Mass as part of their priestly formation, primarily for their liturgical education. For Cordileone the experience of the Traditional Latin Mass inculcates the sense of reverence, of the sacred and respect of Tradition.

Black Catholic ministries Organizes Mass

The co-host was Alex Begin, Harvard’s youngest graduate in 1982 and founder of a software company. He converted through the Latin Mass. His apostolate is now to train priests and bishops in how to celebrate the Old Liturgy. He informed about an August 28 Old Rite Mass in the three-level Saint Aloysius Church in downtown Detroit that has not been used for 50 years. The Mass will be sponsored by the office for black Catholic ministries of Detroit Archdiocese. It is celebrated by Father John McKenzie, a black American priest and former monk of Norcia, Italy, who was ordained a year ago for Detroit. McKenzie believes the Traditional Mass has a key role to play now, as it has historically, in uniting Catholics of all races.

Downtown Detroit Old Rite Mass Success

Alex Begin told the audience about a Friday Night Traditional Latin Mass that was instituted in downtown Detroit’s Old Saint Mary’s. Because the church has a huge pipe organ, the organisers decided to take an add out on the Classical Musica radio station in town promoting the music during this mass. The result: 200 to 250 people attending this Mass on a Friday night. Often, they are not Latin Mass people. The Mass has created a great opportunity for evangelisation.

Heaven on Earth

Father Jeremiah Payne, the parish-priest of St Joseph’s in Palm Bay, Florida, spoke about a 17-year-old girl whom he didn’t know and who participated in a Latin Mass because she had missed the previous English Mass. Her comment, “Father, I don’t know what this was, but if heaven could be on earth I, at least, know that was it.”


TOPICS: Catholic; Worship
KEYWORDS: cordileone; seminarians; tlm
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1 posted on 08/13/2020 4:50:32 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Al Hitan; Coleus; DuncanWaring; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; JoeFromSidney; kalee; markomalley; ...

Ping


2 posted on 08/13/2020 4:51:38 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

The TLM was the Mass that the Martyrs over the centuries witnessed and participated in, ordinations came from the TLM.

How many martyrs and champions of the faith have come from the the NO Mass?


3 posted on 08/13/2020 4:53:48 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: ebb tide

What are those organizations that offer the Latin Mass illicitly going to do if the Latin Mass picks up steam in the general Catholic community?


5 posted on 08/13/2020 4:56:01 PM PDT by Captain Walker
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To: Captain Walker

What organizations are those?


6 posted on 08/13/2020 5:05:14 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Proud to be an Infidel & a deplorable.)
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To: Captain Walker

You have problems. You see schismatics behind every bush.

Be safe; stay in you cave


7 posted on 08/13/2020 5:06:46 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
Many years ago I was in San Francisco for a conference and discovered that a nearby church had a Latin Mass so I went to it. But it was Novus Ordo. The Latin was pronounced correctly but something was missing compared to the Tridentine Mass. I'm pretty sure that was before Archbishop Cordileone was appointed to that diocese.

I would guess that his name means "heart of a lion" (cor is "heart" in Latin--it is cuore in modern Italian).

11 posted on 08/13/2020 5:38:41 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Mom MD
Why don't you come to a high (sung) Latin Mass some time. I will order you a limousine and chauffeur.
13 posted on 08/13/2020 5:43:48 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Bayard

A lot of the Roman martyrs probably said their prayers in Greek. Look at the names of the early popes—many have Greek names. Probably in North Africa Latin was more widely used.


14 posted on 08/13/2020 5:46:41 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

Yes. Tertullian was the first major theologian to write in Latin, which at the time was dominant only in Africa. Rome was a Greek speaking city even before the apostles arrived and remained definitively so through Diocletian. Only under pope Damasus in the late 4th century did the liturgy in Rome switch over to Latin.


15 posted on 08/13/2020 5:53:40 PM PDT by Hieronymus (“I shall drink to the Pope, if you please, still, to conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.Â)
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To: surroundedbyblue
The Safe Space of Pius X would be the most obvious one; after that, their breakaways: the Safe Space of Pius V and the SSPX Resistance.

But there are other priests who offer the Latin Mass who don't have authority to do so either.

18 posted on 08/13/2020 6:17:40 PM PDT by Captain Walker
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To: Captain Walker

There is a Latin Mass every Sunday in Newton,MA.

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19 posted on 08/13/2020 6:26:15 PM PDT by Mears (.)
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To: Captain Walker; surroundedbyblue
But there are other priests who offer the Latin Mass who don't have authority to do so either.

And here's why:

Last year, Pope Francis spoke openly about his misgivings about liturgical traditionalists in an interview that would serve as an introduction of a book of his sermons as Archbishop of Buenos Aires:

I always try to understand what’s behind the people who are too young to have lived the pre-conciliar liturgy but who want it. Sometimes I’ve found myself in front of people who are too strict, who have a rigid attitude. And I wonder: How come such a rigidity? Dig, dig, this rigidity always hides something: insecurity, sometimes even more.... Rigidity is defensive. True love is not rigid.


Is Pope Francis right about traditionalists who love the Latin Mass?

Francis and his francisbishops hate the TLM mass and refuse to honor Pope Benedict's SUMMORUM PONTIFICUM.

20 posted on 08/13/2020 6:43:42 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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