To: Fedora
"He's also entertained some of von Balthasar's heretical ideas about the possibility of Hell being empty, etc."
Bishop Barron did NOT say hell was empty - He said we need to look at it theologically that we can have a "reasonable hope" that all are saved- but denies Universalism and the certainty (Origen) that all are or will be saved... I need to mention, stress, that what Bp. Barron say IS NO DIFFERENT than what the Catholic Catechism says... and even what pope Benedict XVI has said about hell existing, but to what level is it occupied.... WATCH THE OFFENDING DISCUSSION AGAIN:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmsa0sg4Od4
Its a very good analysis of Catholic doctrinal thought -and contras from very smart guys... If some can't understand what he is saying here...and are more interested in calumny, that's their deal.. But keep in mind... THIS is what the Catechism of the Church actually says:
#1821
In every circumstance, each one of us should hope, with the grace of God, to persevere to the end and to obtain the joy of heaven, as Gods eternal reward for the good works accomplished with the grace of Christ. In hope, the Church prays for all men to be saved. She longs to be united with Christ, her Bridegroom, in the glory of heaven.
Those who deny or twist this - to divide - for their own self interest are committing a sin against the Church and the Holy Spirit that guides it...
13 posted on
08/04/2020 2:55:01 PM PDT by
MurphsLaw
(“In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti...Amen.”)
To: MurphsLaw; ebb tide
Black and white thinkers cannot handle complexity or subtlety, they put things in simple terms not to understand, but because they can’t understand.
14 posted on
08/04/2020 3:24:04 PM PDT by
Marchmain
(Salve Regina)
To: MurphsLaw; Marchmain; ebb tide
Condemned by Pope Pius IX in his Syllabus of Errors in 1864:
Good hope at least is to be entertained of the eternal salvation of all those who are not at all in the true Church of Christ.
16 posted on
08/04/2020 3:52:24 PM PDT by
piusv
(Francis didn't start the Fire)
To: MurphsLaw
Bishop Barron did NOT say hell was empty - He said we need to look at it theologically that we can have a "reasonable hope" that all are savedWhich is, as I accurately stated, entertaining the *possibility* of Hell being empty. Such a position explicitly contradicts Scripture and Tradition and is certainly not what the Catechism teaches, nor is what Benedict said about this the same as what Barron said. Hoping to persevere and praying for all men to be saved is not hoping that Hell is empty.
17 posted on
08/04/2020 4:07:23 PM PDT by
Fedora
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