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To: ADSUM
You forget that Judas betrayed Jesus and Peter denied Christ 3 times.

I knew you would bring up those two and you further prove you either cannot or will not see the point. Did Peter follow Jesus through His preaching to the multitudes and go behind Him and tell everyone to reject whatever Jesus said? No. Did Judas' betrayal at the end of the three year ministry affect all the people who came to believe in Christ during His ministry? No. My point once again was that Jesus would NOT have permitted His Apostles to continue in His company had they wallowed in the same perversions as your church's hierarchy did and does.

To leave the Catholic Church is rejecting Jesus and not good for our souls.

On the contrary, it was when I left the Roman Catholic church and her accursed gospel that I fully accepted Jesus Christ and He saved my soul. While I was a Catholic I didn't know the truth about salvation by grace through faith - it was hidden from me behind a cloud of works righteousness that could NEVER save anyone. You seem to imagine that nobody can have a legitimate relationship with Almighty God unless they first join your church. How very cultic of you! I praise the Lord every day for His amazing grace, mercy and love.

875 posted on 08/02/2020 5:26:48 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums

Your comment: “My point once again was that Jesus would NOT have permitted His Apostles to continue in His company had they wallowed in the same perversions as your church’s hierarchy did and does.”

Perhaps you are right, but we don’t know. Again, it is just your personal opinion. My sense of Jesus is that he would deal with sinners but not force them to leave Him and they would probably reject Jesus and leave on their own. You do not know the effect Judas had on the general Jewish population, perhaps more would have followed Christ.

I am sorry for you that you do not see God’s truth in the Catholic faith and yet you may have anger against catholic sinners and a “cult” behind a cloud of works.

To me, you reject Christ when you reject His Catholic Church, His Sacraments and His words of salvation. (Luke 10:16 ; John 12:48-50) To me, when you left the Catholic faith, you embraced heretical doctrines that disagrees with God’s Word.

I believe that one can have a positive relationship with God as long as they do not reject His words and follow false teachers.

For a Catholic that rejects the Catholic Church, there is no salvation outside of the Catholic Church CCC 846-847. I do believe that Christ founded His Catholic Church to help all in our process toward eternal life, and for those outside the CC the process is more difficult.

My understanding is the God is upset with the rejection of His Good News by mankind (including many Catholics) by their sins and is going to give us soon a warning that we will see our souls. This will be a great act of Mercy so that many will not lose their souls. We have the opportunity to repent, confess and change our ways, but God will not force us. It is our choice.

Currently for the last 500 years, Satan has influenced the world towards Communism and secularization and split the Christians into multiple groups with different doctrines and many do not participate in the Mass, Sacraments and prayer.

I pray for the conversion of sinners and that all Catholics will return to the Catholic faith.


899 posted on 08/02/2020 7:53:36 PM PDT by ADSUM
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