Posted on 06/25/2020 12:27:52 PM PDT by JAG 5000
Regarding Epicurus:
Alvin Plantinga’s Free Will Defense of
God with regard to The Problem Of Evil
was successful.
Plantinga demonstrated that God could
not do the impossible such as create
square circles or make 2 + 2 = 7 and
could not create man with a Free Will
and at the same time prevent man from
using his Free Will to choose to do evil.
If you’re interested you can google
“Alvin Plantinga Free Will Defense Wikipedia”
and you will pull up the article.
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Yah. Old Nietzsche was long ago a worm farm.
Here is a thought:
There will come a time for all atheists
who die from natural causes, when they
will be laying on their last battlefield
which will be their Death Bed, and at
some point their doctor will shake his
head and walk away.
They are up against two fierce
battlefield generals who have never
lost a battle. Their names are
General Time and General Death
and both know how to literally
beat humans to Death. At this
time cute little astute witticisms
from Volataire will NOT be of
comfort to Atheists who will
need a Friend and a Savior —
as we all will.
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Geezus
You guys can’t possibly think after some 20 years I am an atheist.
I saw the story and Epicurus popped into my head.
If out of the vast machine our universe was created by math, which we are now discovering, who created that math which rules the universe?
Uhmmmm.....I’ll take God for a true Daily Double, Alex....
“I’ve noticed that forum atheists are very
fond of big pictures to make their “arguments” for them.”
I also notice they never stick around to back up their arguments, they just post & run.
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One knifed the other because he saw the need and refuse any moral authority over his actions.
The other atheist just did not think of that way of arguing first.
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Strange, is it not? that of the myriads who
Before us pass’d the door of Darkness through
Not one returns to tell us of the Road,
Which to discover we must travel too.
-Omar Khayyam
i couldn’t stop reading “Midway” what an excellent story of the naval battle... thrilling.
who are you?
i was replying to the article
What he said.
First you said this about the ending of my story:
“it just didn’t come as quickly as I had wanted it to.”___Teeman8r
JAG Replied that you could have stopped mid-way.
Now you say:
“I couldn’t stop reading “Midway” what
an excellent story of the naval battle... thrilling.___Teeman8r
Are not your two jewels of comment a contradiction?
Maybe not. I just don;t know.
Are you torn between two opposites?
Perhaps not.
Do you have a “love -hate” thingy going with my story?
Was it really that good?
You mentioned a “naval battle” — were there ships
afloat in my story. I was not aware of that. You
see things that others do not see. This is a gift.
Moreover , , ,
This is the Internet -— you can
unburden your soul. Just tell me
what is really on your mind.
Do we need violin music? As background?
May God bless you as you attempt to make sense of the World.
“Geezus
You guys can’t possibly think after some 20 years I am an atheist.
I saw the story and Epicurus popped into my head.
If out of the vast machine our universe was created by math, which we are now discovering, who created that math which rules the universe?
Uhmmmm.....I’ll take God for a true Daily Double, Alex.”___Vendome
Sorry Vendome,
Atheists love Epicurus more than life itself. I just assumed , , , my apologies.
JAG 5000
Deduction can't answer all questions because you have to start from some well-defined and generally agreed upon axioms or premises. Such axioms/premises have been searched out for thousands of years and have yet to be found. The closest things is "Cogito Ergo Sum" but that doesn't get you very far.
By not creating such flawed creatures in the first place. How does something perfect create such imperfection? Hint: by being a work of fiction in the first place.
If a perfect God had really created Man, man would be perfect. But if imperfect Man created the story of God, they'd have to do a lot of explaining about how a perfect being created such a flawed world. In fact, they'd need a whole book...!
A group of scientists tell God they can make a better man than He did.
God says, “You’re on”.
One of the scientists tells another, “Go get a bucket of dirt.”
God says, “No, no ... Make your own dirt.”
God created mankind perfectly, after all why would God want to spend eternity with pompous egotistical ingrates.
Perfection is pompous and egotistical?
An additional point if they want you to explain why God allows bad to happen to "good" people is to mention that He DID initially create a perfect world where everything was good and humans still screwed it up.
An additional point if they want you to explain why God allows bad to happen to "good" people is to mention that He DID initially create a perfect world where everything was good and humans still screwed it up.
without true free will/freedom of choice, people’s actions wouldn’t really mean anything, because they then cannot help but do what they were programmed to do
basically then you’re just a machine running a program you can’t ever change or depart from.
if it’s impossible for you to do evil, or good, what’s the point of morality?
I’m using that! :^)
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