[IrishBrigade]

‘once religion is taken away there cannot be a well ordered, well regulated society.’

sorry, but that’s just pure nonsense...a secular society is every bit as capable of being well regulated and organized as a religious one...

[ebb tide]

sorry, but that’s just pure nonsense...a secular society is every bit as capable of being well regulated and organized as a religious one...

Like Red China?

[Scrambler Bob]

sorry, but that’s just pure nonsense...a secular society is every bit as capable of being well regulated and organized as a religious one...
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Secular is not much different from religious.

Both try hard. Even try hard to be good.

Both are much different from Godly, Christ centered societies (note I did not say religion).

[MurphsLaw]

"sorry, but that’s just pure nonsense...a secular society is every bit as capable of being well regulated and organized as a religious one...

(To finish your sentence) ..but usually the sinful nature of Man inadvertently maybe, but definitely will inevitably turn inward on themselves forced to oppress others with their "own" truths unleashing evil.

That's what history, not religion, has taught us.

[GOPJ]

Almost all ethnic groups have a similar breakdown a decent people, thugs, saints and everything in between.

What matters is which cultures push forth their saints to govern - and which push forth their psychopaths. It’s why religion plays such an important role.

[ELS]

‘once religion is taken away there cannot be a well ordered, well regulated society.’
sorry, but that’s just pure nonsense

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams