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Greek Metropolitan Excommunicates Minister Who Said Communing is Dangerous, Holy Synod Overturns His Decree
Pravoslavie ^ | 5/18/20

Posted on 05/20/2020 5:44:30 PM PDT by marshmallow

Having threatened to excommunicate Greek Minister of Education Niki Kerameus for her public statements about the coronavirus being spread through the act of communing of the Holy Mysteries of Christ, His Eminence Ambrose, the retired Metropolitan of Kalavryta, proceeded to do so after the Divine Liturgy yesterday, May 17.

However, his decision was not supported by the hierarchs of the Holy Synod of the Church of Greece.

On April 30, Kerameus stated on Greek television that it is scientifically proven that the coronavirus can be spread through saliva, and thus it is dangerous to take Holy Communion. This statement is “not only heretical, from a theological point of view, but also destructive for the conscience of Orthodox Christians!” Met. Ambrose believes.

Following the Sunday Liturgy, His Eminence read out the excommunication of Minister Keramaeus, as well as Prime Minster Kyriakos Mitsotakis and Deputy Minister of Civil Protection Nikos Hardalias, reports Vima Orthodoxias.

The Prime Minister is accused of blaspheming Christ and referring to the clergy as “chickens,” and Minister Hardalias of planning to microchip the people—preparing for the coming of the antichrist. It is widely reported that both of these accusations are fake news, while the Metropolitan counters that the Ministers themselves have never denied them.

His public proclamation came on the same day that the Greek faithful were first allowed to return to Divine services.

The same day, the Holy Synod announced that it considers the excommunication to be non-existent and powerless.

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1 posted on 05/20/2020 5:44:30 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: 05 Mustang GT Rocks; Ad Orientam; alex; antonius; aposiopetic; arielguard; bad company; ...
Orthodox Ping!

Save Thy people, O Lord,
and bless Thine inheritance.
Grant victory to Thy Church over her enemies,
and protect Thy people by Thy Holy Cross!

2 posted on 05/20/2020 6:52:39 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: marshmallow

Those Orthodox don’t screw around.


3 posted on 05/20/2020 6:59:07 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: lightman

My understanding (open to correction) is that the bishop is retired. So it is questionable whether he had canonical authority to excommunicate anyone. But he gets points for defending the Church in a way that got everyone’s attention.


4 posted on 05/20/2020 7:30:43 PM PDT by NRx (A man of honor passes his father's civilization to his son without surrendering it to strangers.)
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To: NRx

That is my understanding as well.

But nevertheless it was a very needed (however nuanced) abuse to politicians who presume to be theologians.


5 posted on 05/20/2020 7:36:15 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: NRx

OK, something feels a bit strange about posting “politicians who presume to be theologians” on the eve of the Feast of Sts. Constantine and Helen, Equals to the Apostles.

After all, Constantine did place himself at the head of the First Ecumenical Council....


6 posted on 05/20/2020 7:38:33 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: lightman

Did you know that everything theological was affirmed by a vote of the bishops, and Constantine didn’t vote?


7 posted on 05/21/2020 12:44:40 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

Of course he did not vote...he did not need to.

An Emperor’s influence extends beyond voting.


8 posted on 05/21/2020 4:25:30 AM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: lightman; Mount Athos

I believe that all 7 Ecumenical Councils were presided over by the then-current Byzantine Emperor. But the Emperors did not vote!


9 posted on 05/21/2020 7:17:13 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: marshmallow
The Prime Minister is accused of blaspheming Christ and referring to the clergy as “chickens,” and Minister Hardalias of planning to microchip the people—preparing for the coming of the antichrist.

Catholics and Orthodox may despise American Fundamentalist Protestants, but they're sure picking up their ideas! No way have any of the ancient churches ever taught anything like this before.

So when do the ancient churches start announcing that J*sus is going to personally return and rule the world for a literal thousand years from Jerusalem?

10 posted on 05/21/2020 7:55:08 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Modernism began two thousand years ago.)
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To: Honorary Serb
I believe that all 7 Ecumenical Councils were presided over by the then-current Byzantine Emperor. But the Emperors did not vote!

Correct...and that is why there ave been no Ecumenical Councils since the 15th Century.

Now that assembly in Crete....

11 posted on 05/21/2020 9:17:07 AM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; lightman

....Catholics and Orthodox may despise American Fundamentalist Protestants....

Wrong-O!!!! Faithful Orthodox Christians LOVE American Fundamentalist Protestants!! We want them to visit our churches, learn about our faith, and become Catechumens!!!!

Of course, the evil coronavirus has put a stop to all of that! May God DESTROY the coronavirus by His Almighty Power, and leave scientists scratching their heads as to what happened to the virus!!

As for the Greek government officials who want to imitate the fundamentalist version of antichrist, they are obviously not faithful Orthodox Christians. May God bring them—and us—to repentance!!!!


12 posted on 05/21/2020 10:48:02 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Honorary Serb
Wrong-O!!!! Faithful Orthodox Christians LOVE American Fundamentalist Protestants!! We want them to visit our churches, learn about our faith, and become Catechumens!!!!

Coulda fooled me. My impression was that Orthodox churches were strictly ethnic entities and didn't really appreciate being diluted by converts. We used to have (perhaps still do) an Orthodox poster on this forum who constantly referred to non-Greek Orthodox as "xenoi"

At any rate, historical chrstianity is so radically different from American-style Fundamentalist Protestantism that never the twain shall meet. I myself became a Noachide when I acknowledged historical "apostolic" chrstianity but realized every reason I ever had for believing in chrstianity had been destroyed.

Not to mention they are allergic to your low view of the Bible (a subject on which you folks are just plain wrong).

13 posted on 05/21/2020 2:50:48 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Modernism began two thousand years ago.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; lightman

....they are allergic to your low view of the Bible (a subject on which you folks are just plain wrong).....

We do not have a low view of the Bible! We gave the Bible to the world!!!!

https://www.eurekafirstchurch.com/meet-the-church-that-gave-us-the-bible/


14 posted on 05/21/2020 3:03:17 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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