[cloudmountain]

Ditto. I have more on the subject. I came away with three DVD’s on the conference as well as pages of notes and the seminar brochure (nice 8x10 booklet). There is no way you can convince me it’s a MA fraud; the technical expertise and physiology were not known at that time. Plus the big give away is the nail prints are through the wrist not palms as depicted in all MA prints/paintings/icons.

The sad fact is that there are those who can't BEAR the idea of the Suffering Christ. The Shroud PERSONIFIES that horrible suffering.

[SkyDancer]

They had a full scale replica of the shroud (a photographic image) and up close all you see are smudges but when you stand back about 18 feet you see the negative image; you can see the wounds on the back vividly.