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Zen Speaks
Church Militant ^ | February 19, 2020 | Rodney Pelletier

Posted on 02/19/2020 4:17:36 PM PST by ebb tide

Zen Speaks

China's Catholics suffer

A prominent Chinese cardinal is speaking out against the Vatican's betrayal of Chinese Catholics. Cardinal Joseph Zen, the retired archbishop of Hong Kong, spoke to Church Militant in New York last weekend.

Among other things, Zen explained that the Vatican-China agreement, enacted in 2018, has not been read by any Chinese prelate, including Zen. He also noted that the unsigned Vatican document ratifying the agreement encourages Catholics to join the schismatic Chinese Patriotic Church. 

Zen told Church Militant:

So the first step was that secret agreement for the selection of bishops and then the legitimization of the seven excommunicated bishops and asking the underground legitimate bishops to step down ― and then, finally, last June came out that document, the so-called Pastoral Guidance, encouraging people to join the Patriotic Association. Incredible — it is a total sellout.

He also disclosed that for years Chinese authorities did not heavily enforce the country's anti-Catholic laws, but since the Vatican-China accord, officials have been clamping down on underground Catholic communities with growing ferocity. 

The unsigned Vatican document ratifying the agreement encourages Catholics to join the schismatic Chinese Patriotic Church. Tweet

He noted authorities are now enforcing "The most terrible article" adding "that people under 18 years of age cannot join any religious activity. They are not allowed into the Church. Terrible — it is an old regulation. They didn't enforce that, but now they enforce [it]."

In August 2019, the Chinese Regulation on Religious Affairs published a document reiterating strict rules against "unofficial" religions, clamping down further on Muslims, protestant Christians and Catholics. It calls to "resolutely ban all forms of illegal religious propagation activities and consolidate the power at rural, grassroots levels."

Zen concluded that, without much prayer, the underground Church — professing the fullness of Catholic teaching — is in danger of being exterminated, while the Chinese Patriotic Church wears the Vatican-bestowed mantle of legitimacy.

To learn more, watch The Download—Zen Speaks.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: betrayal; chicoms; francischism; persecution

1 posted on 02/19/2020 4:17:36 PM PST by ebb tide
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2 posted on 02/19/2020 4:18:27 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

And to think that you claim that the rcc is soooo unified, sure it is in name only. That’s why you love this jesuit pope so much is because you are all aligned and unified. So back to the question is the rc pope selected by the Holy Spirit or not? Is the rcc still relevant post vat II?


3 posted on 02/19/2020 6:24:54 PM PST by mrobisr (Romans 10:9-11 it's that simple)
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To: mrobisr

Looks like a I’ve got a new stalker.

Welcome to the club.


4 posted on 02/19/2020 6:28:21 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

“Welcome to the club.”
Thank you, but I’m not new I’ve been here for years you know that. Apparently I have left you feeling left out of the loop I’m sorry, but I’ll do better to correct your error’s in the future.


5 posted on 02/19/2020 6:34:04 PM PST by mrobisr (Romans 10:9-11 it's that simple)
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To: mrobisr
Why don't you run along and play with your club mates?

I'm not playing.

6 posted on 02/19/2020 6:39:38 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

“I’m not playing.”
Sure you are you just did, so lets go.


7 posted on 02/19/2020 6:47:10 PM PST by mrobisr (Romans 10:9-11 it's that simple)
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To: mrobisr
Let me let you in on a little secret involving inept ebb....he's a tad paranoid.

Seems he thinks anyone who responds to his posts and doesn't agree with him is a "stalker". Some noted characteristics of this disorder.

*****

Are unforgiving and hold grudges.

Are hypersensitive and take criticism poorly.

Read hidden meanings in the innocent remarks or casual looks of others.

Perceive attacks on their character that are not apparent to others; they generally react with anger and are quick to retaliate.

Are generally cold and distant in their relationships with others, and might become controlling and jealous to avoid being betrayed.

Cannot see their role in problems or conflicts, believing they are always right.

Are hostile, stubborn, and argumentative.

8 posted on 02/20/2020 6:30:52 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

Well ealgeone you let the wind out of my sails... I took ebb’s comment as flattery and you now have made me realize that he is borderline schizophrenic on here.


9 posted on 02/21/2020 7:45:34 PM PST by mrobisr (Romans 10:9-11 it's that simple)
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