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[Catholic Caucus] Fr. James Martin: ‘Church must stop firing married LGBT people’
LifeSite News ^ | January 31, 2020 | Dorothy Cumming McLean

Posted on 02/01/2020 2:51:28 PM PST by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] Fr. James Martin: ‘Church must stop firing married LGBT people’

The pro-homosexual Jesuit priest issued a new video saying 'married' LGBT people, such as teachers at Catholic schools, should keep their jobs.


Father James Martin, SJ, answers questions about 'LGBT Catholic' in a Jan. 28, 2020 Youtube video.

NEW YORK, January 31, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) ― An LGBT activist priest has issued a new video in which he criticized the Catholic Church for dismissing employees who contract same-sex “marriages.” 

Fr. James Martin, S.J, 59, discusses his beliefs concerning the Catholic faith and homosexuality on this week’s video. 

“In the US, the Church must stop firing married [sic] LGBT people from their positions in Catholic institutions,” the Catholic priest said. 

“Because if you’re going to fire people for not following Church teaching that would include a lot more than just married [sic] LGBT people,” Martin continued.

“Otherwise, you’re not enforcing Church teaching: you’re engaging in discrimination.”

There have been a number of high profile cases in the United States involving Catholic Church employees who publicly rejected her teaching on marriage by contracting same-sex civil “marriages.” 

Last June, Indiana Archbishop Charles Thompson stripped a Jesuit-run school of its Catholic label after the school refused the archbishop’s directive that it not renew a teacher’s contract who had ‘married’ a same-sex partner. The Archbishop stated at the time that “to effectively bear witness to Christ, whether they teach religion or not,” all teachers “in their professional and private lives must convey and be supportive of Catholic Church teaching.”

In 2016, the former head of a Catholic assisted-living center in Richmond, Virginia sued the Saint Francis Home for dismissing him when he disclosed that he was “married” to a man. A diocesan spokeswoman said at the time that “as a Catholic organization, we expect the employees of the diocese and its ministries to uphold and embody the consistent values and truths of the Catholic faith, including those preserving the sanctity of marriage.”

In 2015, the director of education of a Catholic school in Philadelphia was dismissed allegedly because she had been “married” to another woman for eight years. The morality standards for the local Archdiocese stated that it has “the sole right and duty to operate its school system in accordance with the philosophy of Christian education, the doctrines, laws, and norms of the Catholic Church,” and leave the possibility of “dismissal of a teacher for serious and public immorality and/or public rejection of official doctrine or laws of the Church.” 

In these cases, what was at stake was not that the employees experienced same-sex attractions but that they had publicly violated the teaching of the Catholic Church on marriage. 

The Catholic Church does not recognize legal arrangements between same-sex couples as marriage. Marriage, according to the Catholic Church, is a sacred covenant between one woman and one man for life, established for the procreation of children and the good of the couple. The Church teaches that marriage between Christians is a sacrament, which is defined as an “efficacious [sign] of grace, instituted by Christ and entrusted to the Church, by which divine life is dispensed to us” (CCC 1131). 

The Catholic Church, moreover, teaches that homosexual acts are “acts of grave depravity” and “intrinsically disordered” because they are “contrary to the natural law” in that they “close the sexual act to the gift of life.” The Church also teaches that same-sex attraction is “objectively disordered” because it is contrary to God’s design for human sexuality. 

In a 1986 letter to bishops about how to care for persons with same-sex attraction, the Church stated that “special concern and pastoral attention should be directed toward those who have this condition, lest they be led to believe that the living out of this orientation in homosexual activity is a morally acceptable option. It is not.”

Moreover, in a 2003 document about whether same-sex civil unions were supportable, the Church clarified that “respect for homosexual persons cannot lead in any way to approval of homosexual behaviour or to legal recognition of homosexual unions.” 

In his video, Martin also decried bishops who are opposed to the decriminalization of homosexuality. 

“Worldwide the Church needs to look at countries where LGBT people are routinely beaten, arrested, and executed,” he said. 

“In 70 countries, same-sex [sexual] relations are illegal, and in six countries you can be executed for engaging in them,” he continued. 

“So in these places LGBT issues are ‘life issues.’ Tragically, some Catholic bishops have supported these repressive laws. Thus the decriminalization of homosexuality is an important measure for the Church to support.” 

The Catholic Church has come under fire by other LGBT activists for not supporting decriminalization. In 2008, Archbishop Celestino Migliore, then the Vatican’s permanent observer at the United Nations, explained a U.N. resolution aimed at this goal could result in pressure to implement same-sex “marriage.” 

According to Reuters, then-Vatican media chief Fr. Federico Lombardi said at the time “no one wants the death penalty or jail or fines for homosexuals” but pointed out that fewer than 50 states had “adhered to the proposal in question.” More than 150 had not. 

Throughout his presentation, Fr. Martin referred to same-sex attracted Catholics as if they were a group semi-detached from the Church, defined predominantly by their sexual inclinations. He spoke as if these Catholics are routinely ignored, suggesting that listening to them would be a “brand new” step for the Church. In reality, there has been a ministry specifically for faithful Catholics with same-sex attractions since Fr. John F. Harvey founded his Courage Apostolate in1980. Courage International now ministers in at least 18 countries. 

Meanwhile, Fr. Martin suggested that Pope Francis is fully supportive of his ideas. In September 2019, the editor-at-large for America magazine met Pope Francis at a Vatican Dicastery for Communications meeting in Rome. Francis invited Martin to the Apostolic Palace for a meeting, but asked that the details of their conversation not be shared with the media, only with “individuals and groups,” so that the two could talk “freely.”  

“But I can say that the Holy Father and I spent the entire time talking about LGBT Catholics and about LGBT people worldwide,” Martin said, “and that I felt inspired, consoled, and most of all encouraged to continue this ministry in peace.”  

 “It’s hard to express how grateful I am for those thirty minutes.” 


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: catholicism; francischism; heresy; homos; jesuits; martin; moderatecatholic
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1 posted on 02/01/2020 2:51:28 PM PST by ebb tide
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2 posted on 02/01/2020 2:52:34 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

The Church needs to fire faggot priests and most of the bishops, archbishops, cardinals, and Dope Francis.


3 posted on 02/01/2020 2:57:58 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Has anyone seen RBG recently?)
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This Satanic evil must be exorcised from the Catholic Church before it is destroyed.


4 posted on 02/01/2020 3:00:20 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Dear Mr. Kotter, #Epsteindidntkillhimself - Signed, Epstein's Mother)
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To: ebb tide

THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY

Can it be any clearer?

5 posted on 02/01/2020 3:22:08 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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To: ebb tide

What are “LGBT people”? Some new species of animal or something?


6 posted on 02/01/2020 3:35:37 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (You can vote your way into socialism but you have to shoot your way out of it.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

They are missing a vowel, or two, whoever they are.


7 posted on 02/01/2020 3:38:34 PM PST by Leep (Everyday is Trump Day!)
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To: ebb tide

Martin is most definitely a practicing homosexual. I guess I’m not surprised no one in the entire Church is willing to call him out on his total hypocrisy.


9 posted on 02/01/2020 3:40:48 PM PST by PGR88
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To: ebb tide
Francis is proud that Europe has gone "post-Christian" and wants the church to follow. So he blesses pagan idols and approves of homosexual behavior. I personally doubt he even believes in God.


10 posted on 02/01/2020 3:41:44 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: ebb tide

God’s Word says unless they repent they are going to hell.


11 posted on 02/01/2020 3:49:23 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: ebb tide

great optics! (not!)


12 posted on 02/01/2020 3:52:33 PM PST by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: ebb tide

God fires Homosexuals in Hell.


13 posted on 02/01/2020 4:01:23 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: ebb tide

Wouldn’t this depend on whether the job in question is expected to be filled by Christians? I really don’t care when it comes to who hauls the church trash away or who sprays for bugs. When it comes to who holds church office, teaches - adults or children. Is involved with services or ever interacts with the public at large on behalf of the church - it has to be a Christian. An active gay married couple is not Christian. You have to be Christian to be part of the church. A married individual engaging in open unrepentant adultery would be held to the same standard, also. That doesn’t mean you couldn’t visit, attend services or seek counsel from an elder or pastor.


14 posted on 02/01/2020 4:05:47 PM PST by circlecity
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To: ebb tide

The Jesuit order is now an unspeakable cabal. It should be disbanded.


15 posted on 02/01/2020 4:08:47 PM PST by allendale (.)
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To: ebb tide

NO
The church has specific teachings on marriage. She professes the confessional as the remedy for sin. One who is in unconfessed defiance of church law, and wants to be within the church organization, simple has an agenda.


16 posted on 02/01/2020 4:30:02 PM PST by Allthesaints
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Schism

They’re leaving after the Great Apostasy is over

Lotsa Bishops. The freaky ones get all the publicity


17 posted on 02/01/2020 4:46:02 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ))
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To: ebb tide

The time is here for the pope to excommunicate Father James Martin for teachings that go against Church teachings. I cannot understand the pope turning his head on this clown. Is it just because he is a Jesuit and so is the pope?


18 posted on 02/01/2020 4:47:53 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: ebb tide

Not only should the Catholic church fire anyone in a homosexual marriage, they should fire anyone who is a registered democrat.

JoMa


19 posted on 02/02/2020 3:20:46 AM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks.)
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20 posted on 02/02/2020 8:38:01 AM PST by NorseViking
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