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Cdl Marx: Spreading ‘fear of hell’ undermines Gospel
LifeSite News ^ | January 10, 2019 | Maike Hickson

Posted on 01/10/2020 6:32:05 PM PST by ebb tide

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The Catholic Church in Germany is just about to start a German “Synodal Path” questioning the Church's teaching on female ordination, homosexuality, and celibacy. There are essentially two bishops left in Germany – Cardinal Woelki and Bishop Rudolf Voderholzer (Regensburg) – who publicly and strongly oppose this controversial synodal path that has even already gained some criticism from Rome. Voderholzer stated in May of 2019 that this synodal path might very well lead to a “path of destruction.” 

Cardinal Walter Brandmüller had stated already in July of 2019 that “if one considers the statements of several bishops, then one can well say that this ‘synodal path’ leads to a catastrophe.”

Cdl Marx: ‘no stop sign’ from Pope Francis for our German synodal path on celibacy, sexual morality

1 posted on 01/10/2020 6:32:05 PM PST by ebb tide
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2 posted on 01/10/2020 6:33:00 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Nice sheep’s clothes he has on.


3 posted on 01/10/2020 6:34:59 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: ebb tide

He obviously is incorrect.

There is a balance of law and gospel so that the law helps one “appreciate” the gospel.

If you dont think you need the gospel you won’t see its value. People often need to be convinced they need it.


4 posted on 01/10/2020 6:47:47 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ebb tide

“wherever someone spreads fear – of hell or whatever else – the Gospel cannot have an effect.”

Jesus warned about hell, losing one’s soul, in just about every page in the gospels. But I am sure this man knows better.


5 posted on 01/10/2020 6:50:10 PM PST by odawg
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To: ebb tide

Different things motivate different people. Some people become saved because they fear hell. Some respond to the love message. God knows what it takes to reach a person.


6 posted on 01/10/2020 6:52:57 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: ebb tide

Apparently the cardinal hasn’t read the bible:

Jude 1:23
...save others by snatching them from the fire; to others show mercy, mixed with fear-hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh.


7 posted on 01/10/2020 7:25:08 PM PST by Redcitizen (Tagline not secure.)
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To: ebb tide

Without hell there is no Gospel, you mental midget.


8 posted on 01/10/2020 7:25:52 PM PST by Salvavida
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To: ebb tide

Jesus spoke about hell more than anyone else in the Bible. We should pay attention.


9 posted on 01/10/2020 7:32:02 PM PST by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: ebb tide

Nothing against Fatima, but it’s not dogma or even doctrine. Just saying, the words of an apparition are not on same level as scripture.

I say the OMJ every day, but it’s a prayer, not (unto itself) a tenet of theology.


10 posted on 01/10/2020 7:33:17 PM PST by Marchmain (safe, legal and wrong)
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To: ebb tide
O my God,
I am heartily sorry for
having offended Thee,
and I detest all my sins,
because I dread the loss of heaven,
and the pains of hell;
but most of all because
they offend Thee, my God,
Who are all good and
deserving of all my love.
I firmly resolve,
with the help of Thy grace,
to confess my sins,
to do penance,
and to amend my life.

Amen.

11 posted on 01/10/2020 7:46:23 PM PST by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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To: Marchmain

Ever heard of Doubting Thomas?

Just saying.


12 posted on 01/10/2020 8:10:40 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Dude is seriously low info on scriptural topics. The top two volume topics that Jesus taught on were money and Hell.


13 posted on 01/10/2020 8:11:27 PM PST by lurk
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To: ebb tide

A Marxist take on hell. Gotta love it.


14 posted on 01/10/2020 8:15:09 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Marchmain
How the Miracle of the Sun dazzled the sceptics
15 posted on 01/10/2020 8:22:29 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Hell is what people make for themselves on this planet if they make bad choices


16 posted on 01/10/2020 8:25:25 PM PST by Truthoverpower (The guv mint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: ebb tide

Without the fear of Hell, the Gospel is irrelevant.


17 posted on 01/10/2020 8:26:47 PM PST by RPTMS (You can't spell triumph without Trump!)
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To: ebb tide
This guy is a cardinal...A leader of the Catholic religion...He has been teaching bishops and priests for who knows how long...

I am intrigued that Catholics can go a lifetime living under the tutelage of a cardinal (hierarchy) that is clearly no more Christian than Louis Farrakhan...The more I see, the more I believe that Catholics in general have no attachment to the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ...There is no spiritual connect...The religion is more like a social club...Similar to the Free Masons with its rituals or any other similar group...And the motivation for membership is status...

If Jesus doesn't save you from hell, as this leader of your religion posits, what is the point??? Bearing in mind, these same fake Christian leaders when pressed, will tell you there's not really a heaven either, it's just a 'state of mind'...

I know these verses are worn out by the Catholic trying to intimidate non Catholics but if ever these verses can apply to anyone, it's this Catholic cardinal and the bishops and priests under him...

Luk 13:27  But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. 
Luk 13:28  There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out. 

18 posted on 01/10/2020 10:04:41 PM PST by Iscool
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To: Marchmain

How is the OMJ not on the same level of Scripture and a tenet of theology, when it clearly summarizes Scripture?


19 posted on 01/10/2020 10:23:57 PM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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To: ebb tide

Wrong. The religion never stops. And it’s not a religion. It is science. What humans call science is more comparable to a religion, actually. Big bangs. Dark matter. CO2 is a pollutant. Lol.


20 posted on 01/10/2020 11:13:31 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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