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Orkney hermits excommunicated for calling Pope a 'heretic'
BBC ^ | 01-08-2020 | Huw Williams

Posted on 01/09/2020 12:05:55 PM PST by NRx

Three hermits living in Orkney have been thrown out of the Roman Catholic church, after they called the Pope a "heretic", and said evil was "destroying" the church.

The group published the comments in an online declaration.

A spokesman for the diocese of Argyll and the Isles said they were warned it would lead to excommunication.

He said offers of dialogue had been refused, so "the penalty now applies".

The group - two men who call themselves a priest and a monk, and a lay woman who was a senior doctor - live on the island of Westray.

They run a controversial blog in which they outline their objections to the church's stance on issues including homosexuality.

In 2015 the trio were thrown out of a church house in Northamptonshire for bringing the diocese into disrepute.

And at the beginning of last year one of the group was convicted of sending homophobic abuse to an Episcopal clergyman.

One of the group, Stephen De Kerdrel, told BBC Radio Orkney they believed the church was facing desperate times, and that called for desperate measures.

"Most Christian churches, with the exception of the Orthodox churches, are now so over-run by liberalism and secularism and humanism that they've ceased really being churches," he said.

"But I actually think we're seeing a great battle between Western society and Christianity. And the one they really want to take a pot shot at is the Catholic church.

"So, it almost seems that we're joining the enemy. But we're actually trying to save it from itself."

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


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1 posted on 01/09/2020 12:05:55 PM PST by NRx
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2 posted on 01/09/2020 12:08:33 PM PST by HangnJudge (Kipling was right about Humanity)
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To: NRx

Where is Archbishop Gilday now that we need him


3 posted on 01/09/2020 12:11:44 PM PST by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: NRx

So much for Free Speech in the Catholic Church.
I know there is no provision for that verbatim, but the assumption is most Christian religions are able to tolerate differing points of view. I guess not so much.


4 posted on 01/09/2020 12:11:56 PM PST by lee martell
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To: NRx

Hmmm...heretics in power now are excommunicating the faithful. Now that Francis has now appointed over 50% of the Cardinals who will select the next Pope, the RCC my be permanently under their rule


5 posted on 01/09/2020 12:14:17 PM PST by House Atreides (Boycott the NFL 100% — PERMANENTLY)
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To: NRx

So, the Church can’t refute them so it just labels them heretics and bans them from the temple. Isn’t that exactly what the Pharisee’s did?


6 posted on 01/09/2020 12:14:17 PM PST by circlecity
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To: NRx

My brother is a retired bishop in the Church.

He’s been probably more vocal than is wise, to the point where he, too, has been threatened for some of the things he’s said about the pope. (The word “anti-” was floated more than once.)

And, as a retiree who has no significant assets outside of what is effectively a pension at the will of the Church, they’re not shy about threats against old priests.

I’ve got a nice ranch with a great guest house. I’m trying to get him to go nuclear.


7 posted on 01/09/2020 12:14:38 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (Orange is the new brown)
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To: NRx

Heretic? That’s putting it kindly.


8 posted on 01/09/2020 12:15:41 PM PST by Bullish (Covfefe Happens)
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To: House Atreides

And so, it begins. The first victims of the new LGBTQ Church.


9 posted on 01/09/2020 12:18:54 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Epstein pulled a Carradine, the bozo.)
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To: NRx

So, being for homosexuality and for baby murder is not cause for excommunication. But disagreeing with changes the Church is foisting on people, changes that contradict God’s word is grounds for excommunication! The Catholic Church leadership is now firmly in Satan’s grasp. It’s horrible.


10 posted on 01/09/2020 12:31:14 PM PST by winner3000
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Revelation 18:4

Then I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues; ..............


11 posted on 01/09/2020 12:33:30 PM PST by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.......... ..)
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Trivia: the Orkney Islands gave the legendary home of Thomas the tank engine its name. Creator Rev W. Audrey had seen “The Diocese of Sodor and Mann” while studying for the priesthood, and thought it seemed that Sodor was an island, like Mann. In fact, Sodor refers to South Orkney [Islands].


12 posted on 01/09/2020 12:36:27 PM PST by dangus
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I think one loses one’s hermit status when one gets online accounts.

They spoke the truth.


13 posted on 01/09/2020 12:51:25 PM PST by bgill
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To: House Atreides

no offense, but pleeese, what do you expect, Man doesn’t know or walk Christ way...anywhere on earth,


14 posted on 01/09/2020 1:23:52 PM PST by aces (and)
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To: NRx
"Most Christian churches, with the exception of the Orthodox churches, are now so over-run by liberalism and secularism and humanism that they've ceased really being churches," he said.

They've obviously never watched any "Primitive" or "Old Regular" Baptist services on YouTube . . . or read The Sword of the Lord.

The ancient liturgical churches have joined liberal Protestants in attacking and ridiculing Fundamentalist Protestants for decades. Now they deprive them of any mention among those who are holding the line.

Typical. (Not to mention that the Orthodox churches are only behind the Catholic and liberal Protestant churches a little bit; they'll catch up.)

15 posted on 01/09/2020 1:43:54 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Modernism began two thousand years ago.)
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To: lee martell; NRx
Well, this is a strange one. I am in much sympathy with the hermits, but they themselves, preemptively, declared themselves out of communion with the Pope and those bishops in communion with him.

Clearly, and by definition, they intentionally excommunicated themselves.

They can hardly complain when they were granted what they asked for in writing and actually did by their own act.

Which they were, of course, free to do.

16 posted on 01/09/2020 2:20:33 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("May the LORD bless you and keep you; may the Lord turn to you his countenance, and give you peace.")
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"The group" - three people?
Why get all hot and bothered for THREE people? There are 7.53 BILLION people on this earth and there's all this for THREE people?

Seems hardly worth it.

17 posted on 01/09/2020 2:24:25 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: NRx

And in the “I didn’t leave the Church; the Church left me” Department...


18 posted on 01/09/2020 2:32:34 PM PST by Oscar in Batangas (January 20, 2017, High Noon. The end of an error.)
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He is a heretic...I guess i am too.


19 posted on 01/09/2020 2:33:04 PM PST by chasio649 (Donald Trump is not the president we need, he is the president SJWs deserve)
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To: NRx

The Pope is a “heretic” and evil is “destroying” the church.


20 posted on 01/09/2020 2:40:33 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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