Posted on 12/27/2019 4:31:57 PM PST by ebb tide
You should be ashamed of yourself to think Catholics are not saved. How can you judge our hearts? We dont exactly get our marching orders from Rome but we worship at the local parishes. WE have a Savior who is the same one you have We worship Him differently than you obviously. Would you attack a Methodist or a Presbyterian the way you ignorantly attack Catholics WHO ARE the Original Christians? If you could research your ancestors back to the 1st century youd be shocked to discover they started out as Catholics.
I cant get through to your hardened heart so Im signing out.
Please reread the entire chapter I posted. The context is legalists telling new Gentile believers they had to follow the Law of Moses.
A council was called.
The Holy Spirit led the Apostles to write a specific letter telling them they would do well if they just did these things...
Greetings. 24 We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. 25 So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul— 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing. 28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.
IF the Holy Spirit was going to keep Gentiles under Law, this was the time to clearly state it. They did not. They wiped it away and listed 4 things.
There's all the authority any Christian needs. A passage in Scripture, the Holy Spirit, and the Apostles.
If you wish to ignore or deny it, no problem.
But in the end, Rome is not needed to tell Christians what day to worship.
Again, not what I stated. You seem to be having some kind of trouble distinguishing between the 4 Gospels in Scripture, and a teaching of the Gospel of Grace.
Some are. Many - maybe most, are not. They've been taught a false religion and have never heard the Gospel of Grace.
How can you judge our hearts?
I leave that to God.
We don’t exactly get our marching orders from Rome but we worship at the local parishes.
Yet, every Catholic Church must teach exactly what Rome tells it.
WE have a Savior who is the same one you have
Having Him and being saved are two different things FRiend. "Lord, Lord, didn't we..."
Would you attack a Methodist or a Presbyterian the way you ignorantly attack Catholics WHO ARE the Original Christians?
1. I am not attacking a single catholic. I am pointing out the teaching as false.
2. Catholics were not the original Christians. This is just something you've been taught. And even if they were, that proves nothing. Read the first 3 chapters of Revelation and you will see what the fallacy of that argument.
If you could research your ancestors back to the 1st century youd be shocked to discover they started out as Catholics.
As was I, until I came to saving faith in Christ.
I can’t get through to your hardened heart so I’m signing out.
It appears your heart is hard against Christ, preferring catholicsm.
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By your logic, these are all allowed; it's the blood of strangled animals that's problematic.
(I can't keep up with this. I just...can't.)
There’s no prohibition there against theft, rape, or murder either
You do know there is more in the NT than Acts 15?
Show me the specific line in the New Testament (and not the vague catch-all line that allows everything but idols and meat from strangled animals) that shifts the day of rest from Saturday to Sunday.
I am judging Catholicism, not Catholics. I am judging that religion with reason, tempered with experience, and measured by Scripture.
And I dont know which Christian religion you are referring to.
From pentecost, when believers were first baptized into the body of Christ - which was a Sunday - onward - the NT records believers gathering on the first day of the week.
Yes, a Apostles went on the sabbath to witness to gatherings of Jews, as commanded of them.
That Sunday gathering for Christian worship continues onward in the early church record for 300 years.
Youve made up an argument about the authority of Rome being necessary to change to Sunday worship that is simply false.
It isnt credible.
There was no decree issued in the NT. The Holy Spirit came on Pentecost.
No Rome needed.
It was St. James Holy Roman Catholic Church in Falls Church, VA.
The Liturgy of the Word was part of the Mass then and all the way back to when I first attended Mass, regularly and on Holy Days of Obligation in the 1950s. It comes right before the Liturgy of the Eucharist - where the transubstantiation is alleged to occur.
Or, maybe you dont believe that a Priest gave the Gospel on TV?! I know. Right?
Be specific. WHAT dont you believe? I know what you obviously dont believe.
That is all, my friend; have a good night.
LOL
You keep saying that and you dont realize how STUPID it is.
Heres an exercise for you: Youll need a Bible. Search for the word gospel in the New Testament (Thats the Second of the two major parts). See how the word is used. Its euaggelion if youre reading it in Greek.
Then get back to us.
Post #143: And THERE IT IS. That hurdle that can NEVER be cleared: Four Gospels v. The Gospel that SAVES. That wraps up everything anyone would ever need to know about the RCC v. Christianity. The GOSPEL (s) they believe and accept are the 4 gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke & John. The GOSPEL that SAVES is not found there. It was revealed to Paul and he was commissioned to reveal it to us, in this dispensation of the GRACE of GOD.
No wonder we seem miles apart from the RCC...WE ARE.
Amen bro
Myth. And that’s your sign.
Have gotten you little pachmama statue yet to rest beside your mary one.
I attended mass for over 19 years FRiend.
If I’m misinformed, it’s because of your Priests who presided over the ceremonies and spoke.
Thank God, I found the Gospel and actually put forth the effort to read Holy Scripture on my own.
John 1:12
HMMMmmm
Then logically; YOU would have had to graduate from "a Protestant seminary" to be able to make this assertion for sure.
So; just how DO you 'know' that he learned&knows NOTHING from the source you've claimed?
Tell me again; as I like a firm, authoritative voice in a person.
I can tell you that damned few FR Catholics recognize the 'authority' of their current pope.
Would that be the same thing??
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