Posted on 12/16/2019 8:08:32 AM PST by SeekAndFind
I always assumed that the brother in that case was to be a single man.
Then how did the Mormons support polygamy in their original manifestation?
However, as political units grow larger, warfare increasingly occurs on borders far distant from most people's lives. Warfare also increasingly becomes the preserve of a specialized (or regionalized) military caste; the division of labor tends to separate the typical peasant from the need to bear arms except when things go very badly wrong on the frontiers (or Vikings start rowing up the rivers …).
Polygamy makes sense when boys start tending flocks at age 10 and become targets of constant raising from the clan from over the hill. When a very high percentage of young men die by violence at a young age, a tribal society will adopt polygamy to provide partners for the surplus young women. That's where the institution comes from.
Or become cannon fodder, or bring in foreign women as wives, whether voluntarily or otherwise, which simply exports the problem.
God directly describes making Adam out of the ground and placing him in the Garden of Eden. Then forming Eve for him. He says nothing about Adam being in heaven or leaving Him or any “mother.”
Adam has no mother. He was made directly by God from the dust of the ground.
And yes there is one specific situation in the OT where polygamy IS condoned.
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That is not polygamy; it is levirate marriage. Its intent is to provide a child who can take over the property of the deceased.
So glad that I do not have to marry any of my sisters-in-law. May they live well and long.
“And who would their mother be? Pachamama?”
Your mother and my mother.
Remember, we believe we were spirit children in heaven befor Heavenly Father built this world for us.
"We?? I believe no such thing. Not even remotely.
My soul, with is spirt, did not exist at all until my conception in my mothers womb. It was created then and there, by God.
And I've never even met somebody who believes such a thing --- about spirit children in heaven with a spirit-Father and spirit-Mother in heaven--- unless they were polytheists.
So I guess you're a polytheist? Don't be afraid to say. There are plenty of polytheists out there.
There is only a Heavenly Father.
There is only a Heavenly Father.
You must be one of the very few that does not know I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
That is the we i speak of.
polytheists
Since we do not force Father and Jesus into the same personage, yes they are both part of the Godhead. Jesus takes His direction from Father.
“””about spirit children in heaven with a spirit-Father and spirit-Mother in heaven”””
I said nothing about spirit parents, just spirit children.
“Adam has no mother. He was made directly by God from the dust of the ground”
You speak of his body. His spirit is a spirit child of heavenly parents. Just like you and me.
”26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over [g]all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” 27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. ”
Nothing about a spirit child here (or anywhere else). Adam became alive when God breathed into him, that is, into Adam’s body that He made.
I was thrown off when you said "Remember, we..." as if I shared these distinctive beliefs with you.
You also said, "Since we do not force Father and Jesus into the same personage..." I again didn't catch what you're talking about, since I don't even know anybody who "forces Jesus and the Father into the same personage." I have no idea what that even means.
Evidently as a Mormon you don't believe in the Trinity as understood by historic Christianity over the millennia, i.e. that the Trinity consists of three co-equal, co-eternal, Persons. Not entities jammed into one "personage."
I not sure this discussion is going to be fruitful unless we both stop making any assumptions about then other person's beliefs.
I don't have much time for a real comparison, but I have a good will toward you and wish you well.
I have to go make my lattice-top apple pies. It is quite a project.
“I have to go make my lattice-top apple pies. “
With course sugar that gets over cooked on top i hope.
Wish you could email me a slice.
There was also Jacob, who married Leah and Rachael
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+29%3A18-30&version=NIV
Or Sugar, sure!
“Adam, the first man in the flesh, left his father and mother in heaven to cleave to his wife.”
No. Just NO! Stop the insanity.
Can you IMAGINE the quarrels that would be a daily, constant barrage?
The King of Saudi Arabia can have more than one wife, but then he's the King. But the rest of the Saudis say the same thing that the Pakistani said. The problem is that if a man gives one wife a new car he has to give all the other wives the same thing. So he would have to be a very rich person.
Plus I was reading about the Yanomami in the Amazon, who to a certain extent practice(d) female infanticide. Naturally that means that when they come of age to seek mates, they can't find enough females in their tribe, so they raid neighboring tribes for women.
Feuding, banditry, raiding, abducting women--- that's how they live and die.
It's obvious they were (maybe still are) stuck in a hell of their own making.
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