[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

Rome and Constantinople had nothing to do with the Church or anything Christian. Martin Luther was just a marginal improvement. Henry VIII was ridiculous. Don’t look to human leaders. They are all corrupt.

[Biggirl]

The truth is that WE ALL ARE OR HAVE BEEN corrupt in one way or another.

[Antoninus]

Rome and Constantinople had nothing to do with the Church or anything Christian.

Another one. Have you read the primary sources? For those of us who live in this corrupt, post-Christian world to ridicule those who lived in Rome and Constantinople in ancient times and the middle ages as not being sufficiently Christian is frankly ludicrous. For a millennium, the world that Constantine initiated ate, drank and slept the teachings of Jesus Christ. They weren't perfect, but they were zealous--more zealous than most so-called Christians in our own time.

[Campion]

Don’t look to human leaders. They are all corrupt.

As are people who tell others not to look to human leaders.