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The Pachamama Pope
catholicismpure ^ | Rod Dreher

Posted on 10/26/2019 3:39:57 PM PDT by ebb tide

The Pachamama Pope


In October 4 Vatican ceremony, Pope Francis blesses pachamama statue (LifesiteNews)

The statues of the fertility idol that vandals had removed from a Catholic parish in Rome and tossed into the Tiber have been recovered, said Pope Francis. Excerpt from his remarks:

“Good afternoon, I would like to say a word about the pachamama statues that were removed from the Church at Traspontina, which were there without idolatrous intentions and were thrown into the Tiber.

“First of all, this happened in Rome and, as bishop of the diocese, I ask pardon of the people who were offended by this act.”

So the Pope now affirms that these statues were meant to represent the Incan fertility goddess. Useful to know. He went on to say that they might be displayed at the final mass of the Amazon Synod on Sunday.

There you have it.

On EWTN last night, Cardinal Gerhard Müller, who was, until dismissed by Francis, the head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith — that is, the top doctrinal body of the Catholic Church — called the statues “idols,” and said that bringing them into the church was a crime against the law of God. Watch this short clip:

WORLD OVER HOT TAKE: Cardinal Gerhard Mueller on the men in Rome who threw the indigenous “Mother Earth” statues in the Tiber river.

Understand what is happening here: the cardinal who until fairly recently was the top doctrinal official in the Catholic Church is indirectly accusing the Pope of allowing idolatry, and breaking the divine law. If those “pachamama statues” — to use Francis’s own words — turn up at the closing mass of the Synod in St. Peter’s Basilica, it will be seen by many as a profanation of the temple, as an “abomination of desolation,” to use the term of the prophet Daniel, and Jesus of Nazareth.

Many Biblical scholars say that Christ’s warning about the abomination of desolation in the Temple was a prophetic reference to the Roman army attacking Jerusalem and profaning the Temple. This happened in the year 70 AD; the Romans initially intended to capture the Second Temple and turn it into a sanctuary of Emperor worship, but they ended up burning it down. In any event, that was the end of Jewish temple worship.

But some scholars believe that Jesus made a double prophecy, and that just before the Apocalypse, there will be another abomination of desolation in the temple. I am Orthodox, not Catholic; I don’t know if reputable scholars in the Orthodox tradition believe that this was a double prophecy, and if so, what it portends for the Last Days. But if I were a Catholic, and I saw those idols at the final synod mass in St. Peter’s on Sunday, my blood would run cold.

Whatever you think of prophecy, the fact that a senior cardinal — the former head of the CDF! — has called what Pope Francis has blessed a crime against the divine law is a staggering. Last night, I had an exchange on Twitter with a couple of Catholics, including CNA’s excellent editor J.D. Flynn, who wondered why I write in such a crisis mode about events in the Christian world. My answer is: look around you! The crisis is real. 

Let me repeat it in a slightly different framing: In the last 24 hours, the Catholic world has seen the Pope call these Amazonian statues by the Mother Earth goddess name — Pachamama — lament their theft from a church, celebrate their recovery, and suggest that they might be present at mass at St. Peter’s Basilica on Sunday. It has also seen the former doctrinal chief of the Catholic Church denounce these statues as “idols,” and call the placing of them inside a Catholic Church as a violation of divine law. If that doesn’t tell you that the Catholic Church is in a severe crisis at its very summit, what will it take?

In 2018, Cardinal Willem Eijk, the Archbishop of Utrecht, said that Pope Francis’s confusing teaching reminds him of Paragraph 675 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church. That graf reads as follows:

675 Before Christ’s second coming the Church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many believers. The persecution that accompanies her pilgrimage on earth will unveil the “mystery of iniquity” in the form of a religious deception offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the truth. The supreme religious deception is that of the Antichrist, a pseudo-messianism by which man glorifies himself in place of God and of his Messiah come in the flesh.

In this subsequent May 2019 interview with Lifesite News, the Dutch cardinal elaborated:

LifeSite: You used extraordinarily strong words. You spoke of “apostasy inside the Church”. Could you explain what you meant by that?

Eijk: I quoted number 675 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Because there are cardinals who plead for the blessing of homosexual relationships, I referred to this paragraph of the Catechism as a warning. It states that shortly before Apocalypse, voices will rise within the Church itself, and even among the highest authorities of the Church who will express divergent opinions in relation to Catholic doctrine. I did this as a warning: let us be careful not to find ourselves in this situation. I must say that, to my surprise, Cardinal Müller took up this idea: on February 9 of this year, he published a statement on the fundamental elements of the Catholic faith, in which he also referred to number 675 (2). It is also remarkable that my interview and the full quotation were also taken up by Bishop Gänswein during the presentation of a book by Rod Dreher, The Benedict Option.

All this has reached many people and many have also started to think about it. In this way, I hope to get more and more people in the Church to open their mouths and create clarity, because many Catholics – but you know this as well as I do – are really confused.

In his “Manifesto Of Faith” from earlier this year, Cardinal Müller said:

To keep silent about these and the other truths of the Faith and to teach people accordingly is the greatest deception against which the Catechism vigorously warns. It represents the last trial of the Church and leads man to a religious delusion, “the price of their apostasy” (CCC 675)  it is the fraud of Antichrist. “He will deceive those who are lost by all means of injustice, for they have closed themselves to the love of the truth by which they should be saved” (2 Thess: 2-10)

Cardinal Müller later gave an interview about the Manifesto to Catholic World Report, in which he said:

CWR: There has been quite a bit of discussion about your references to apostasy and “the fraud of the Antichrist” (§ 5). Were you suggesting that we may be living through the “last trial of the Church”? And what sort of apostasy, specifically, did you have in mind?

Cardinal Müller: The Antichrist is a figure embodying opposition to Christ. He does not simply appear at the end of history, but emerges in every age as the one who tempts us into the pit and the one who destroys God’s house. Jesus has asked whether he will still find faith when he returns. And sometimes in Church history, it seems as though faith does run out in the Church. In the struggle against ultra-powerful Arianism, which was sustained by public opinion and political power, Saint Athanasius often seems outmaneuvered. Back then, Arianism was modern and Catholicism premodern in the eyes of those whose faith lay in forward progress. As Saint Jerome puts it with a groan, the world awoke and found that it had become Arian. This is the hour of Saint Peter. Jesus told him that Satan has longed to sift the disciples and the whole Church like wheat. Then followed Jesus’ word of tremendous force and relevance, even in this present time of suffering in the Church: “But I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail; and when you have turned again, strengthen your brethren” (Lk 22:32).

These are days.

Before Christ’s second coming the Church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many believers. The persecution that accompanies her pilgrimage on earth will unveil the “mystery of iniquity” in the form of a religious deception offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the truth. The supreme religious deception is that of the Antichrist, a pseudo-messianism by which man glorifies himself in place of God and of his Messiah come in the flesh.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: apostasy; francischism; pachamama; paganism
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1 posted on 10/26/2019 3:39:57 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Al Hitan; Coleus; DuncanWaring; ebb tide; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; JoeFromSidney; kalee; ...

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2 posted on 10/26/2019 3:40:54 PM PDT by ebb tide (I am Christeros. I am Michael Del Bufalo.)
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To: ebb tide

How anyone could follow this fake is beyond me.


3 posted on 10/26/2019 3:52:42 PM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: HighSierra5

I never wanted to be a Sedevacantist.


4 posted on 10/26/2019 4:06:03 PM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: dsc
Is it sedevacantism if Benedict is still pope 🧐
5 posted on 10/26/2019 4:08:49 PM PDT by Eepsy
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To: ebb tide

While abominations are worshipped tomorrow in Rome, orthodox Lutherans will worship the Triune God while commemorating the anniversary of the Reformation.

When Cardinal Mueller becomes Pope John Paul III (or however he chooses to be named) and like Josiah cleans the church of all abominations, we can talk. Until then, choose this day whom you will serve.


6 posted on 10/26/2019 4:41:19 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Eepsy
Is it sedevacantism if Benedict is still pope

The term I have heard is "Benevacantist". It is going to take a 100 years to figure out what happened.
7 posted on 10/26/2019 4:56:17 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (Sutor, ne ultra crepidam--Appelles of Kos)
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To: HighSierra5

He is definitely an anti-Christ. “Thou shalt not have any gods before me.” What is it going to take to wake up Catholics? Tomorrow’ is Reformation Sunday. Martin Luther was right.


8 posted on 10/26/2019 5:08:36 PM PDT by Wm F Buckley Republican
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To: chajin

Amen, and amen!


9 posted on 10/26/2019 5:10:41 PM PDT by Wm F Buckley Republican
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To: ebb tide
Can Popes pick new names in the midst of a Pontificate?

I have a suggestion: Pope Clown I, The Pachamama Pope

10 posted on 10/26/2019 5:22:56 PM PDT by stevem
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To: ebb tide

Sprouts Market carries Pachamama brand gray sparkly fuzzy bathballs. Maybe the idol would float further down the Tiber if she had lots of those to bubble bath her along. Hehe.


11 posted on 10/26/2019 5:23:07 PM PDT by amihow
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To: chajin

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3789304/posts

Ponder every word.


12 posted on 10/26/2019 5:25:08 PM PDT by Wm F Buckley Republican
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To: Eepsy

Good question.


13 posted on 10/26/2019 5:35:05 PM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: chajin

But note.... if you change the idols name to Mary it is then fine with the catholics to kneel and bow down before it.... They are only protesting the name of the idol not the idol itself.

A blessed Reformation Sunday to you


14 posted on 10/26/2019 5:57:58 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD; chajin
Martin Luther's Devotion to Mary
15 posted on 10/26/2019 6:05:37 PM PDT by ebb tide (I am Christeros. I am Michael Del Bufalo.)
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To: ebb tide

So? It took him a while to wash all the false Roman teachings out of his life. We are talking about the idol worship in the Roman Church not what Luther thought of Mary


16 posted on 10/26/2019 6:17:17 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

No need to defend your apostasy to me.


17 posted on 10/26/2019 6:18:22 PM PDT by ebb tide (I am Christeros. I am Michael Del Bufalo.)
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To: ebb tide

It’s your apostasy we are speaking of but nice try


18 posted on 10/26/2019 6:22:06 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

I’m still in the faith, the One, True Faith, I was baptized in as an infant.

How about you?


19 posted on 10/26/2019 6:29:20 PM PDT by ebb tide (I am Christeros. I am Michael Del Bufalo.)
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To: Mom MD
It would actually be OK to kneel and bow down to a cross or a Bible (we do) or to a baptized baby, or to a fellow Christian (we do) or even, Mom MD, to you (and I would) --- if the clear intent, inwardly and outwardly, is showing respect and honor for a person, place or thing set aside for the service of the Lord.

This is a "referred" sign of honor, inasmuch as the honor is shown to things or places or persons only BECAUSE they are dedicated to God. The utimate honor is "referred" to God. They are blessed, and God both gives the blessing and receives honor. Scripture even calls Mary, "Blessed" ... but as a handmaid, a created being, a saved person, saved by God Our Savior--- not as some kind of demigod or goddess.

It does not mean adoration. I do not adore crosses. I would not adore Blessed Mary. I would not adore an angel. I would not adore you.

The truly horrible problem with Pachamama and suchlike--- many are calling it a "diabolical disorientation" --- is that at best, "she" doesn't even exist at all: "she" is a nonentity. And at worse, "she" exists and is a wayward spirit, in other words, a demon. She is NOT someone or something dedicated to God.

It would be like kneeling to a voodoo doll or a Ouija board. The gesture is "referred" too, in a perverse way: to a demon!

Truly horrible, horrible, horrible: I can't tell you how horrible.

Lord have mercy. If the Pope tries to set up one of these things in St. Peter's, I hope there is a riot. A riot and repentance. Or I hope fire from Heaven comes down from Heaven and settles the matter.

20 posted on 10/26/2019 7:05:25 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (For Satan is a liar and the Father of Lies, and a murderer from the beginning.)
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