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To: af_vet_1981; Elsie
If i should even indulge.... You tried this before and your argument is even more vain now then it was then.

And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter. And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch. Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly. (Joh 10:22-24) The Lord went up to the Feast at Jerusalem to minister the Word, as that is all John 10:22-40 describes Him as doing. And He was not in the Temple itself, but "in Solomon's porch ," a porch on the eastern side of the Temple's Outer Court (Women's Court). Which was thus later able to be used by the early church to meet.

The Lord thus at least made use of a cultural celebration to minister the Word, as I often have myself (including Catholic feasts, though I was no more welcome than the Lord was here) and some cultural celebrations are honorable. However, even if the presence of the Lord at the FoD infers giving sanction of it, even as a required observance, this does not affirm, as Scripture, a source which describes its institution, nor does Paul sanctifying a Truth spoken by a pagan on Mar's Hill, or the veracity of the source of the news about eighteen upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, (Luke 13:4) or appealing to Roman law as required observance. (Acts 22:25) Simply affirming a source as stating something Truthful, even as requiring observance, does not make it Scripture, versus invoking Scripture as "Scripture," "It is written," "thus saith the Lord," and the like statements of Divine authority.

But again, the issue of the greater antiquity of the Prot canon of Scripture had already been well-established before you showed up with you end-around attempts to get some yardage. However, as usual, I expect you to continue to flail away no matter how often you are cut down. Just do not expect me to accommodate such.

161 posted on 10/16/2019 9:05:52 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: daniel1212
And He was not in the Temple itself,...

The scripture reads:

καὶ περιεπάτει ὁ Ἰησοῦς ἐν τῷ ἱερῷ (Jesus walked in the temple)


Four other translations besides the Authorized Version have it the same: "in the temple" ..., so the argument that the KJV is a mistranslation of the Greek is unpersuasive.
163 posted on 10/16/2019 4:34:21 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: daniel1212
And He was not in the Temple itself,...The Lord thus at least made use of a cultural celebration to minister the Word, as I often have myself ...

Postulating what the Messiah did because one did something two thousand years later is an example/fallacy of cultural bias. There is no evidence in the scripture that the Feast of the Dedication at the Holy Temple was a cultural celebration. There is no other place in scripture that explains the Feast of the Dedication except Second Maccabees and the Gospel of John, which every Christian must accept as inspired by the Holy Spirit, explicitly mentioned the Feast of the Dedication (Re-dedication) of the Holy Temple in the context of the presence of the Messiah. One might consider this very significant and not filler.
164 posted on 10/16/2019 4:41:51 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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