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Ignoring the Poor Is a Damnable Sin—A Homily for the 26th Sunday of the Year
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 09-28-19 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 09/29/2019 7:48:47 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: Salvation

Jesus dealt with each person as an individual. He did not tell all rich men to give up their wealth to follow him; he told a specific one for whom his wealth was a chief stumbling block.

“The poor you will always have with you,...” [Matthew 26:11]

I have never been wealthy, and I have devoted much of my life to helping others. There is only so much any finite human can do - and not all are called to do the same amount, in the same manner, for the same need.

Implying some generic standard is a legalistic approach.


41 posted on 09/29/2019 1:29:06 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Just who are you identifying as "you people"?

I suppose it includes those who post articles like this and those who take it to heart thinking they must do good works or go to hell...I imagine that is most Catholics...

42 posted on 09/29/2019 1:35:24 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool
You may have inadvertently overlooked the fact that there is only one extended "dress-rehearsal" type scene of the Judgment in the Gospels, authored by the Judge Himself no less.

You will find it at Matthew 25:31-46.

Keywords and phrases: hungry, thirsty, separate them, accursed, eternal fire.

The main talking points are repeated four times, usually an indication meaning, "Listen up, people, this is serious."

Mind you, none of the people I know -- as far as I know --- are good to the hungry, friendless, and shelterless because of fear of hell fire, but rather to extend to others the love which the Living Christ has placed in their hearts.

The Judge Himself, however--- the Same who has the lead part in the actual coming Judgment --- saw fit to insert an explicit reference to hell fire into His sermon, to indicate the destiny of those who do not love and care for Him when He is hungry, thirsty, shelterless, sick or in prison.

He's preaching on hell: and He's not just blowing smoke.

For our own good, I am sure.

43 posted on 09/29/2019 2:03:21 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("It is better to be slapped with the Truth than to be kissed with a Lie." - Yiddish proverb)
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To: Iscool
You manifest rash judgment toward "most Catholics," because you indict them for moral fault upon little evidence, upon no evidence, or against the evidence.

As I mentioned before ---admittedly, I do not have CAT scan vision into souls -- but according to their own testimony, I have never seen Catholics profess that they do good to the poor out of fear of eternal damnation, but rather because they are "impelled by the love of Chris" to love as they have been loved.

Fear of hell, though, as an element of motive in doing good and avoiding evil, is not to be flicked away like a piece of lint.

I don't know if you have heard of Franz Jagerstatter. He was the only -- absolutely singular --- Austrian during WWII who was executed for refusing to be conscripted into the Nazi Army. One influence which strengthened his resolve to give his life, if necessary, rather than cooperate with the Nazis, was a dream he had. He dreamed he was about to join the surging throng and board a train (which he associated with Hitler's movement) when a Voice restrained him. It said "Do not board that train, Franz. It is going to hell."

Trusting God and resisting to the end, Jaegerstatter was beheaded at Brandenberg Prison on August 9, 1943.

If you read the letters--published decades later--- which he wrote to his wife and three little children, you can see he was a man of love. But his will to do what is right was purified, one could say, by his horror of the literally damnable nature of cooperating with Nazism's diabolical evil.

44 posted on 09/29/2019 2:25:49 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("It is better to be slapped with the Truth than to be kissed with a Lie." - Yiddish proverb)
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To: Iscool
You manifest rash judgment toward "most Catholics," because you indict them for moral fault upon little evidence, upon no evidence, or against the evidence.

As I mentioned before ---admittedly, I do not have CAT scan vision into souls -- but according to their own testimony, I have never seen Catholics profess that they do good to the poor out of fear of eternal damnation, but rather because they are "impelled by the love of Chris" to love as they have been loved.

Fear of hell, though, is not to be flicked away like a piece of lint. I don't know if you have heard of Franz Jagerstatter. He was the only -- absolutely singular --- Austrian during WWII who was executed for refusing to be conscripted into the Nazi Army. One influence which strengthened his resolve to give his life, if necessary, rather than cooperate with the Nazis, was a dream he had. He dreamed he was about to join the surging throng and board a train (which he associated with Hitler's movement) when a Voice restrained him. It said "Do not board that train, Franz. It is going to hell."

Jaegerstatter was beheaded at Brandenberg Prison on August 9, 1943.

If ou read the letter-- which still survive--- he wrote to his wife and three little children, you can see he was a man of love. But I would say his will to do what is right was purified, one could say, by his horror of the damnable nature of cooperating with Nazism's diabolical evil.

45 posted on 09/29/2019 2:26:39 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("It is better to be slapped with the Truth than to be kissed with a Lie." - Yiddish proverb)
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To: SkyDancer

Amen.


46 posted on 09/29/2019 2:38:06 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: tired&retired
From the article.The care of the poor may be a complicated matter, and there may be different ways of approaching it, but we can we never consider ourselves exempt if it is within our means to help. We cannot avoid judgment for greed and insensitivity.

I further suggest that our vocation to care for the poor is personal ... we can't just fob it off on the government to do it with "other peoples' money".

47 posted on 09/29/2019 2:41:55 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Both of those are crimes.


48 posted on 09/29/2019 3:29:27 PM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and Americans!)
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To: NorthMountain

Where it really gets tough is when the poor person is a drug addict or alcoholic.

It takes a tough love in such situations.


49 posted on 09/29/2019 3:31:12 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: CodeToad
Exactly. Such crimes exemplify the principal reasons for poverty in the USA.

The Liberals say poverty causes crime.

The reality is that crime causes poverty.

50 posted on 09/29/2019 3:37:57 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("It is better to be slapped with the Truth than to be kissed with a Lie." - Yiddish proverb)
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To: tired&retired

That is an exceptionally tough problem. More than food, that person needs to clean up ... and frequently don’t want to.


51 posted on 09/29/2019 3:50:41 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: SkyDancer

That’s funny.


53 posted on 09/29/2019 4:03:17 PM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I am prejudiced against a lot of things and people and make no bones of it.
Muzzards , for instance.


55 posted on 09/29/2019 4:13:00 PM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: tired&retired

**teaching people to fish rather than enabling the people to be perpetual victims constantly begging for you to give them a fish.**

I agree with this.

This morning at church a new Ministry was announced in giving free clothing and food to the poor children in local schools — Chapter 9?

The thought that went through my mind was “Why not teach their parents a skill so they could get a job and provide these needed items for their own children?”


56 posted on 09/29/2019 4:13:56 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
As I mentioned before ---admittedly, I do not have CAT scan vision into souls -- but according to their own testimony, I have never seen Catholics profess that they do good to the poor out of fear of eternal damnation, but rather because they are "impelled by the love of Chris" to love as they have been loved.

Well I don't either...But since this is what this Mr. Pope and the rest of your Church teaches it's reasonable to assume that since Catholics continue to be Catholic, they believe this teaching...

57 posted on 09/29/2019 4:24:54 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: tired&retired

That’s when you church can start a Drugs Anonymous or Alcoholics Anonymous to allow them help themselves when they hit bottom.


58 posted on 09/29/2019 4:31:01 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Biggirl

2 Corinthians 11:12But I will keep on doing what I am doing, in order to undercut those who want an opportunity to be regarded as our equals in the things of which they boast. 13For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their actions.


59 posted on 09/29/2019 4:49:20 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Iscool
I don't blame you for passing by, without comment, the one on-the-nose Scripture about the significance of Works of Mercy when the King, the Son of Man, comes in His glory to pronounce His judgment (Matthew 25). It's awkward when things don't line up exactly with your theory about how these things should go.

You also assume you understand what the Church teaches about salvation, but you do not. You erect your assumption into a "given," supposedly a Catholic axiom, which you then proceed to knock down. It's called a "straw man" argument. This makes reasonable discussion impossible.

60 posted on 09/29/2019 5:05:44 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Gotta be very careful if you don't know where you are going, cuz you might not get there. Yogi Berra)
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