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To: Mrs. Don-o
Just who are you identifying as "you people"?

I suppose it includes those who post articles like this and those who take it to heart thinking they must do good works or go to hell...I imagine that is most Catholics...

42 posted on 09/29/2019 1:35:24 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool
You may have inadvertently overlooked the fact that there is only one extended "dress-rehearsal" type scene of the Judgment in the Gospels, authored by the Judge Himself no less.

You will find it at Matthew 25:31-46.

Keywords and phrases: hungry, thirsty, separate them, accursed, eternal fire.

The main talking points are repeated four times, usually an indication meaning, "Listen up, people, this is serious."

Mind you, none of the people I know -- as far as I know --- are good to the hungry, friendless, and shelterless because of fear of hell fire, but rather to extend to others the love which the Living Christ has placed in their hearts.

The Judge Himself, however--- the Same who has the lead part in the actual coming Judgment --- saw fit to insert an explicit reference to hell fire into His sermon, to indicate the destiny of those who do not love and care for Him when He is hungry, thirsty, shelterless, sick or in prison.

He's preaching on hell: and He's not just blowing smoke.

For our own good, I am sure.

43 posted on 09/29/2019 2:03:21 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("It is better to be slapped with the Truth than to be kissed with a Lie." - Yiddish proverb)
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To: Iscool
You manifest rash judgment toward "most Catholics," because you indict them for moral fault upon little evidence, upon no evidence, or against the evidence.

As I mentioned before ---admittedly, I do not have CAT scan vision into souls -- but according to their own testimony, I have never seen Catholics profess that they do good to the poor out of fear of eternal damnation, but rather because they are "impelled by the love of Chris" to love as they have been loved.

Fear of hell, though, as an element of motive in doing good and avoiding evil, is not to be flicked away like a piece of lint.

I don't know if you have heard of Franz Jagerstatter. He was the only -- absolutely singular --- Austrian during WWII who was executed for refusing to be conscripted into the Nazi Army. One influence which strengthened his resolve to give his life, if necessary, rather than cooperate with the Nazis, was a dream he had. He dreamed he was about to join the surging throng and board a train (which he associated with Hitler's movement) when a Voice restrained him. It said "Do not board that train, Franz. It is going to hell."

Trusting God and resisting to the end, Jaegerstatter was beheaded at Brandenberg Prison on August 9, 1943.

If you read the letters--published decades later--- which he wrote to his wife and three little children, you can see he was a man of love. But his will to do what is right was purified, one could say, by his horror of the literally damnable nature of cooperating with Nazism's diabolical evil.

44 posted on 09/29/2019 2:25:49 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("It is better to be slapped with the Truth than to be kissed with a Lie." - Yiddish proverb)
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To: Iscool
You manifest rash judgment toward "most Catholics," because you indict them for moral fault upon little evidence, upon no evidence, or against the evidence.

As I mentioned before ---admittedly, I do not have CAT scan vision into souls -- but according to their own testimony, I have never seen Catholics profess that they do good to the poor out of fear of eternal damnation, but rather because they are "impelled by the love of Chris" to love as they have been loved.

Fear of hell, though, is not to be flicked away like a piece of lint. I don't know if you have heard of Franz Jagerstatter. He was the only -- absolutely singular --- Austrian during WWII who was executed for refusing to be conscripted into the Nazi Army. One influence which strengthened his resolve to give his life, if necessary, rather than cooperate with the Nazis, was a dream he had. He dreamed he was about to join the surging throng and board a train (which he associated with Hitler's movement) when a Voice restrained him. It said "Do not board that train, Franz. It is going to hell."

Jaegerstatter was beheaded at Brandenberg Prison on August 9, 1943.

If ou read the letter-- which still survive--- he wrote to his wife and three little children, you can see he was a man of love. But I would say his will to do what is right was purified, one could say, by his horror of the damnable nature of cooperating with Nazism's diabolical evil.

45 posted on 09/29/2019 2:26:39 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("It is better to be slapped with the Truth than to be kissed with a Lie." - Yiddish proverb)
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