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1 posted on 09/27/2019 6:44:42 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Umm? Muslims?


2 posted on 09/27/2019 6:52:01 PM PDT by Maskot (Put every dem/lib in prison........like yesterday!!!)
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To: marshmallow

Lone nut in a hotel room? No wait that was vegas.


3 posted on 09/27/2019 6:57:18 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: marshmallow

An accident with 2 flash points. What are the odds?


4 posted on 09/27/2019 6:58:08 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: marshmallow

There is no French “opposition” to Muslim immigration: the war is over.

One does not dare wear kippa in but a few parts of Paris, and NEVER in Marseilles: it is asking to be beaten.

France is no longer French. They took it like they took the “Dome of the Rock,”

Like they took “Hagia Sofia...”

France simply has not come to terms with the demographic bomb that went off long ago...

Just silly people talking about the past, atheists climbing the remains of their old churches while their family names turn to dust.

Islam won France. Hitler didn’t, but Islam did.


6 posted on 09/27/2019 7:25:05 PM PDT by golux
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To: marshmallow
Post modern architect terrorists.

The French authorities want to avoid panic.

8 posted on 09/27/2019 8:08:06 PM PDT by Salman (The Democrat agenda in one word -- revenge.)
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To: marshmallow
An alarm went off meaning there was either smoke or a fire which set off the alarm.

The firefighters arrived and allegedly searched but didn't locate either the source of the smoke or the fire.

They left.

The smoldering or the fire continued until it became a full blaze.

My question is: if the firefighters did a proper search why didn't they find the source of the smoke or the fire?

Why were they quick to clear the situation and leave?

Were they lazy and did they do a half-hearted search or were they incompetent?

Did one of the fighter fighters actually find the source of the smoke or fire and if so, why didn't they report it to the crew and put it out? (There are reported cases of firefights who start fires).

There WAS either smoke or a fire. WHY didn't they find it?

Did they question each of the FF separately?

They know the general area where the fire started. Which FF searched that area and why didn't he locate the smoke or the fire?

Whether it was an accident or arson, there was a fire. Why wasn't it found before it got out of hand?

Either the firefighters failed to do their job properly, one or more of the firefighters set the fire or let it burn without reporting it (there are firefighters who turn out to be arsonists), or someone was in the building and set the fire after the firefighters left.

The last one is plausible. The culprit may have set the first fire but it went out before the firefights first arrived which is why they didn't find a fire. After the firefighters left he could have reset the fire at his leisure and when the second alarm went off the firefighters considered it another false alarm.

10 posted on 09/27/2019 10:13:50 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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French surrender.

Expressions of surprise and shock at 11:00.

16 posted on 09/28/2019 3:46:46 AM PDT by Chainmail (Remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence)
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We don’t know the truth. But IF a muzz did it, Macron would have suppressed the truth immediately. A big, beautiful Catholic church, icon of Paris, destroyed by a muzz would not have been a pleasant thought. We don’t know if a muzz did it, but the French government would have hidden the truth.


17 posted on 09/28/2019 4:31:57 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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Have any Islamist groups claimed responsibility? Perhaps there were but I’ve not heard of any. Terrorists like to advertise their handy work, they even sometimes claim responsibility for that which they didn’t do, even fight among themselves over which terrorist group can claim credit.

Seriously, not every fire or explosion is caused by Muslim extremists and when it is terrorism, they like to make it known. That’s not to say that it couldn’t have been or that they didn’t celebrate the destruction but the likely cause is something else.

Notre Dame Cathedral was undergoing major renovations, some of which were to repair the very shoddy attempts at renovation in the 19th century. Many architects and historians had been concerned for years about the sad state of the building and of the poor attempts at stemming the decay.

Old buildings are susceptible to fires during renovations, especially where electrical work is being done or by careless workers - in April, a spokesman for scaffolding company Le Bras Freres which had been involved in restoration work at Notre Dame admitted that workers had smoked on the site from time to time. The company later tried to retract that statement for obvious reasons.

While it may seem a cover up to say it was not arson, absent any evidence that it was, it would be equally irresponsible to say it without a doubt that it was arson. The difficult part of determining a definitive cause is that the fire itself often destroys evidence of its cause.

Here where I live in York PA, in March 2018 there was a fire at a 150-year-old former organ and piano factory and later warehouse that was being converted into upscale apartments. Two firefighters were killed in a partial collapse while putting out hotspots the morning after the fire. While the cause is still undetermined, it is believed the cause of the fire was faulty electrical wires, either old wires still “hot” or new wiring or even from contractor equipment. The fire quickly got out of control consuming the entire building because while there was a sprinkler system, it was not operational during the renovations and the 150-year-old building still had many of its original wood flooring, some of which had dry rotted and collapsed in spots during the renovation work and had most of its original wood beams throughout.

https://fox43.com/2018/03/30/atf-officials-cause-

And as of June of this year, the investigation into the Notre Dame fire is on-going.

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/3016234/devastating-notre-dame-cathedral-fire-could-have-been-started

In 1984 a fire nearly destroyed the York Minster Cathedral. The fire was believed to have been caused by lightning striking a metal electrical box inside the roof.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-28112373

Like Notre Dame, York Minster’s vaulted ceiling was constructed with wood timbers, many of them original at the time of the fire. Very old wood, a vaulted ceiling acting like a chimney, electric wires sparking - a recipe for disaster.

Notre Dame and York Minster were not the first or only great cathedrals to have suffered devastating fires. Some were destroyed by city wide fires such as the original St Paul’s Cathedral, London destroyed in the 1666 Great Fire of London (although it had been damaged by fire twice earlier), some by lightning strikes, one was known to have been caused by candles lit for its consecration, some by bombings during WWI or WWII and some by accidents of undetermined cause.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fires_at_major_places_of_worship


21 posted on 09/28/2019 7:27:56 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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