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To: pastorbillrandles

[[As long as a believer ‘goes on believing” he goes on having eternal life.]]

[[at some point true faith is defected from by those who continue in sin...]]

[[ ongoing faith is what God requires. Doing sin is an act of unbelief...]]

Your articles have been about the doctrine of OSAS- which it appears that you support- but then you go and say things like the above- which contradicts The Verses that state quite clearly that not one of Christ’s children will ever be lost- no matter what- You can’t say that those verses are true- when you state that we must have ‘ongoing faith’ in order to ‘remain saved’- You are teaching two different doctrines here-


16 posted on 09/20/2019 9:56:37 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434

Thanks for the input, obviously I am not being clear enough in what I am saying...
1) I am saying that the only requirement for salvation is the we believe.
2 ) I am making the point that biblically “to believe” is not a momentary assent, it is an ongoing commitment, a loyal steadfastness...
3) I am also saying that Unbelief is the primary danger... not any particular sin a believer may commit, or a sin of omission... Jesus died for all of our sins
4) The only question is, “do you go on believing?”
5) I am also raising the issue of sin in the believer’s life, and the relationship of persistent sin too unbelief...

I have more to share and will trynto be clearer, but this feedback helps...


37 posted on 09/20/2019 10:35:59 AM PDT by pastorbillrandles (ore and rebuild Jerusale)
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To: Bob434
The Verses that state quite clearly that not one of Christ’s children will ever be lost- no matter what

There simply are not verses that state quite clearly that not one of Christ’s children will ever be lost- no matter what. Instead, as show, the promises are always conditional upon believing, and which is described as being effectual Abrahamic-type faith, with characteristic obedience by the Spirit, including repentance when convicted of that which is not obedience. As was just shown you.

104 posted on 09/21/2019 5:00:16 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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