Posted on 09/11/2019 10:52:15 AM PDT by Gamecock
To think that doing works gets you justified is utterly foreign to the overall context, and is a false, incredible doctrine.
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Your statement here is an example of the erection of a straw man for the simple reason that justification by doing good works has not been asserted, at least not by me. But your subtle play on words to imply that it has is quite clever!
Let me ask you, do you live in fear for your salvation,
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Not at all because, even though St. Paul says to “work out you salvation in fear and trembling . . .” (Phil 2:12), I follow the Master’s advice as quoted in Matt 2:27 and do the will of the Father as it is revealed throughout the Holy Scriptures.
In the King James Version of the Bible the relevant text reads:
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall
enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth
the will of my Father which is in heaven.
John6:28 Then they said to him, “What must we do, to be doing the works of God?” 29 Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.”38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. 40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”
If confused, refer to John 3 and the exchange between Jesus and Nicodemus, and what God did regarding the act by Moses in the Desert.
Any questions? I don't see any sacraments or religious idols or Maridolatry in that. Any questions?
Do you even proofread what you write? Millions of Bibles in every country in the middle ages? Liar!!! If you'll lie about something so easily proven wrong, why would anyone take your "supposed teaching" about the Catholic church seriously?
Read this article which totally disproves your comment.
History - Why didn't people in the Middle Ages read the Bible?"
Bible wasn't available - no printing presses
The Bible was on scrolls and parchments during the early centuries of Christianity. No one had a "Bible". In the Middle Ages, each Bible was written by hand. Most people were, at best, only functionally literate. That is partially why they used stained glass windows and art to tell the Bible story. The printing press was not invented until 1436 by Johann Gutenberg. Note: The Gutenberg Bible, like every Bible before it, contained the Deuterocanonical books - or "apocrapha" in Evangelical circles.
It’s about believing God.
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Very simplistic. Many people and even the devil herself believe God (or think they do). But as we all know believing God depends on the correct understanding of what God has revealed. If one’s understanding is in error then obviously one is not believing God but instead is believing only a misunderstanding.
Moreover, believing God and doing His will are two entirely different things. Many people believe God but knowingly defy His will. We call such people sinners, and Jesus has told us explicitly that these people will not enter the kingdom of heaven (Matt 7:21).
You have just committed the unacceptable deed of bragging in Post #562 of how you are earning your way into God's gracious benefices and how He must now recognize how nice you are and how clean your heart is.
Isn't there something just a little strange about your approach to gaining Jesus' favor?
"But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthyH5708 ragsH899; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away" (Isa. 64:6 AV).
Notes:
Strong's Number H5708
עד
‛êd
ayd
From an unused root meaning to set a period (compare H5710 and H5749); the menstrual flux (as periodical); by implication (in plural) soiling: - filthy.
Strong's Number H899
בּגד
beged
behg'-ed
From H898; a covering, that is, clothing; also treachery or pillage: - apparel, cloth (-es, -ing), garment, lap, rag, raiment, robe, X very [treacherously], vesture, wardrobe.
Actually, all the works that you have done for God count even less to Him than it does to the reader here, according to the above verse. Unless you are dead in sins, crucified to the world, and the world crucified to you, with Christ living in you and through you doing the works, for which HE ALONE gets the credit and GOD the glory, your works will be burned up as hay and stubble. with your future looking very sombre indeed.
A number of us have been down that road of soulish and spiritual wreckage, received the gift of eternal life, and are appealing to you now, praying for your eyes to be opened as to God's plan of freely given salvation, not yours that includes meritorious labors to achieve it.
You outright admitted that you aren’t keeping God’s Commandments. Why should God save you from damnation?
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I think it has been revealed that He will save REPENTANT sinners, but I know that “repentance” gets short shrift in almost all Protestant theology. Oh well. We will all see soon enough who will be saved and who will be burned. Good luck!
You have just committed the unacceptable deed of bragging in Post #562
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#562 ?????????????????????? Bragging is an extremely common practice in Fundy and other Protestant religious exegesis. I never stoop to that level so you must be mistaken!
The will of the Father is to constantly and urrevocably believe on Him Whom He hath sent. No more, no less, nothing else; and by this committing to keep watchfully secure and carry out whatever commands He has declared.
I suspect such arguers / pleaders are those who will try to plead their deeds when Jesus will turn to them and state 'Depart from me, I never knew you.'.
The Will of God is plainly and succinctly stated BY JESUS in John 6, yet you want to add anything your fertile mind can conger up (and it is really your father sending the 'yes-buts').
The Gospel of Grace includes zero of your works and all of God's Mercy. He sees the inward you and His word is powerful to divide even soul and spirit. He has made His Gospel of Grace so simple only a proud fool would try to add to what God requires. And what God requires HE has told you in John 3 and John 6. Argue with Him at your eternal peril.
Not clever. Factual and contextual. Stop whining. You are the braggart of your good works Post #562.
But you told me that you’re earning salvation by your works.
Now you’re throwing yourself on God’s grace? What happened to your works? If they’re so great, why not use them as a reason God should save you?
From Matthew 7:15-23 (NASB)
15“Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
16“You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they?
17“So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit.
18“A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit.
19“Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
20“So then, you will know them by their fruits.
21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.
22“Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’
23“And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’
Jesus is clear in His message. It is those who practice lawlessness who do not inherit the Kingdom.
The key word there is lawlessness. The Greek word is ἀνομία, anomia.
It conveys the following meaning:
458 anomía (from 1 /A "not" and 3551 /nómos, "law") – properly, without law; lawlessness; the utter disregard for God's law (His written and living Word).
458 /anomía ("lawlessness") includes the end-impact of law breaking – i.e. its negative influence on a person's soul (status before God).
https://biblehub.com/greek/458.htm
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These are people who are not followers of Christ. They are false prophets.
Sure you did. Anyone can see it. Saw nothing there about Christ working through you, with the Spirit at the control panel, and claiming nothing for yourself to boost your FR reputation. Tch, tch.
This sounds like your works are without faith.
I see you're not very well acquainted with non-Roman Catholic theology.
I assure you, at the church I attend, repentance is preached.
James; is that the same fella that wrote, "Call no man father."?
Oh; no; that was JESUS speaking.
My bad.
I’m firmly convinced that everyone who continues unto death to assume that they are “saved”, precisely because of their faith in what an apparition; that is presumed to be Christ's mother; has promised them...
The poster is incapable of seeing self in the light of Truth found in the Word of God. ‘If then the light in you is darkness, how great is the darkness!’
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