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To: SauronOfMordor

I don’t know - he has his email so you can ask him. I just found the vast range of beliefs under the Pentecostal umbrella interesting - even if one denies the Trinity one can be called a Oneness Pentecostal.

And I thought the Trinity was the foundation of a Christian belief


3 posted on 08/26/2019 3:43:42 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Cronos
>> RE Speaking in tongues: from the article, "The third point those who disagree make is that they feel the gift of tongues ceased when the Bible was completed. I Corinthians 13." <<

This topic, the perception that once the progressive revelation of the Holy Scriptures was finished, speaking in Scripture-unsupported Gentile/Barbarian tongues would fade away, has been negated by the cults claiming to be Pentecostal in intent. In fact and in experience, the paradigm of "speaking in tongues" (whatever one thinks that consists of) was displaced by the multiplication of copies the only authoritative God-inspired Scriptures written by the Apostles or their personally approved amansueses.

The controversial issue is addressed in a scholarly paper obtainable from the Happy Heralds, Inc. site, titled "THAT WHICH IS PERFECT" (click here) by Dr. Fred Wittman.

From the abstract of the link to the paper:

. . . a letter was received from a pastor who objected and took exception to the doctrinal statement of one of our churches. He expressed his objection concerning the interpretation of "that which is perfect" (1 Corinthians 13:8). He stated,
"Verse 13:8 ff in 1 Corinthians says nothing about The New Testament, but is referring to Christ as the perfect one and the gifts will pass away when He comes."
Just what does the phrase "that which is perfect" refer to? And can one be sure of its meaning or is it up in the air for grabs? This paper carefully deals with these questions in the light of Scripture and the meaning of "perfect," the grammar, syntax, context, the term used elsewhere in Scripture, the term in the light of Progressive Revelation and the culture of the people to whom it was written, with special attention paid to the Greek word translated "perfect."

"Happy Heralds" has received numerous e-mails that have indicated a lack of understanding of the miraculous gifts."
The principle involved is that God's Holy Spirit gave and preserved the Inspired Written Word in only three human languages: Hebrew (the language of Adam and Eve), Aramaic (passages of the OT in Daniel as well as a few words transliterated or translated in the NT record), and the Koine (common) Greek of the civilized world in Jesus' time.

Nowhere in the Bible record does God or His Spirit speak to humans in any other sounds, sensible or nonsensical. But the messages of the Holy Scripture has been put into non-biblical languages in various levels of competence by well-meaning but uninspired translators.

For sure, there are no Spirit-inspired messages written in unintelligible sound patterns that do not even have an alphabet, let alone words that convey the thoughts of God to a human audience.

But in their mistaken concepts, the cults misappropriate as their title the Jewish religious event identifying the Spiritual birth date of Christ's inclusive company of New Covenant regenerated servants. In doing so, they do a great damage to misidentify and misrepresent God's way of communicating to the human race in this day of history. The method they employ is highly susceptible to manipulation by malicious religious con-men.

The antidote to being misled by humans is through truly Spirit-led Bible-teaching and -preaching assemblies where the Scriptures alone are the unimpeachable authority for all constituents.

16 posted on 08/26/2019 5:42:14 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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