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To: Okieshooter
But your definition has no meaning to an atheist or a Deist like me since we don’t believe in the divinity of Christ.

THIS is what I was getting at.

There is no 'sin' if there is no 'law'.

When there is no law; how can there logically be anything known as 'moral'?

If we all do what is 'right' by our own standard; there is not peace but anarchy.

What is a 'mistake'? By whose standard is something a 'mistake'?

We can not fall back on the crutch of being forgiven.

Then we fall forward onto our own sword.


For clarification Atheists do not believe in any god and Deists believe in a creator that created the universe but doesn’t actively interfere with it.

Then what 'good' is there in being a Deist?

What is a Deist required to do?


What do Deists 'worship'?

Is the concept of 'worship' even a thing with Deists?

Would not a Deist be the same thing as a humanist?

59 posted on 08/24/2019 8:17:48 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

“Then what ‘good’ is there in being a Deist?”

What good is there in being a Christian if it is not based on truth? To understand why we don’t accept the Bible as truth would take more space than we have here. The best explanation can be found by reading Thomas Paine’s book The Age of Reason.

This excerpt explains what would be the bible of a Deist.

“The Creation speaks a universal language, independent of human speech or human language, multiplied and various as they be. It is an ever-existing original, which every man can read. It cannot be forged; it cannot be counterfeited; it cannot be lost; it cannot be altered; it cannot be suppressed. It does not depend upon the will of man whether it shall be published or not; it publishes itself from one end of the earth to the other. It preaches to all nations and to all worlds; and this Word of God reveals to man all that is necessary for man to know of God.”

Thomas Paine

“What is a Deist required to do?”

There is no dogma in Deism

“What do Deists ‘worship’?”

Only giving thanks to the creator for giving us life and reason with no expectation that it cares. We do not pray for it to help us because we see no evidence that the creator interferes in the affairs of man.

“Is the concept of ‘worship’ even a thing with Deists?”

See above.

“Would not a Deist be the same thing as a humanist?”

Yes but does that have to be a bad thing?


61 posted on 08/25/2019 2:28:15 AM PDT by Okieshooter
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