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Catholics to US Bishops: Restore Eucharistic Belief Through Tradition, Orthodoxy
Church Militant ^ | August 15, 2019 | Bradley Eli

Posted on 08/19/2019 9:55:34 AM PDT by ebb tide

Catholics to US Bishops: Restore Eucharistic Belief Through Tradition, Orthodoxy

WASHINGTON (ChurchMilitant.com) - Catholics and even non-Catholics are telling the U.S. bishops that only by restoring reverence toward the Blessed Sacrament will they restore belief in the Real Presence. The bishops, however, are offering catechetical booklets.

Following a poll showing 7 out of 10 baptized Catholics do not believe that the Eucharist is Christ, U.S. bishops are asking the public for a solution.

On Friday, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops posted the following question on its official Facebook page: "A recent PEW study revealed that only 1/3 of Catholics believe in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist. What are some ideas to solving this issue? We want to hear your opinion."

The bishops' post received more than 1,200 responses. The vast majority say faith in the eucharistic Lord can only be ignited by treating Him reverently in countless ways. Specific advice to bishops included:

WATCH THE FULL EPISODE

Even a non-Catholics like Tim Kline, who responded to the bishops' inquiry, see how this last point makes sense. Kline observed that when priests and bishops offer Holy Communion "to unrepentant sinners (such as pro-choice politicians), you're telling the world that the Eucharist is meaningless."

Kline added, either you "don't believe what you teach" or "you believe" but cruelly allow people to "eat and drink judgment on themselves."

As responses continue to pile up, the bishops are offering reading material as their solution to the problem. They posted on Facebook an advertisement for "Sacrament of the Eucharist Bundle."

These catechetical booklets that can be purchased for $8.75. In their Facebook post, the bishops tell Catholics to read about "how Jesus wants to transform your life through this sacrament of his Body and Blood. 

Traditionally minded Catholics, however, aren't buying their solution. 

Father Richard Heilman, whose blog Roman Catholic Man is greatly appreciated by thousands of Catholics, remarked in the bishops' Facebook thread, "We cannot 'read' our way out of this."

Heilman added that he's restored reverent liturgy at his church and "young families are pouring into our parish."


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Worship
KEYWORDS: francischurch; realpresence; vcii
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1 posted on 08/19/2019 9:55:34 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Al Hitan; Coleus; DuncanWaring; ebb tide; Fedora; Hieronymus; irishjuggler; Jaded; JoeFromSidney; ..

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2 posted on 08/19/2019 9:55:53 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

The Catholics have almost destroyed Christianity.The Devil
has gotten hold of them all the way to the pope . Jesus and what he said and taught is the only way we will save our world. The Pedophiles in the Catholic church are the right hand of the demons that the devil has sent to earth and the Muslims are the left.


3 posted on 08/19/2019 10:21:02 AM PDT by spincaster (ust)
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To: ebb tide

Is this an open thread or the Catholic Caucus?


4 posted on 08/19/2019 10:26:17 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: SkyDancer

It’s open. Have at it.


5 posted on 08/19/2019 10:27:53 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

Just was wondering then, at the Last Supper the disciples were all seated and Yeshua just said what he said and I supposed passed around the elements. Just curious the ritual used is all; people having to kneel, can’t have the host placed in their hand, etc. In Protestant churches the elements are passed around on trays.


6 posted on 08/19/2019 10:32:46 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: spincaster
The Church is not ours to destroy. It is Christ's...and He himself promised the gates of Hell will never prevail against it.

The Pedophiles in the Catholic church are the right hand of the demons

On that, at least, we can agree.

7 posted on 08/19/2019 10:34:06 AM PDT by Claud
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To: SkyDancer

There is an old book reprinted by TAN “How Christ said the First Mass.” How accurate the scholarship is in it, I can’t say, but it was a fascinating take on exactly what you are wondering.

You can probably find the original online somewhere.


8 posted on 08/19/2019 10:37:06 AM PDT by Claud
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To: SkyDancer

Do you think the apostles immediately realized what was happening? Maybe something convinced them later, perhaps the Crucifixion and Resurrection or the Ascension or the descent of the Holy Ghost?

Have you ever thought of that?


9 posted on 08/19/2019 10:37:33 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

Don’t know but was just wondering is all.


10 posted on 08/19/2019 10:44:15 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Claud

Is this it:

https://archive.org/stream/howchristsaidfir00meag/howchristsaidfir00meag_djvu.txt


11 posted on 08/19/2019 10:46:44 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

Frankly aside from better homilies/teaching I don’t believe that any of that stuff is going to make a difference.

You can’t overcome a deficiency in people’s hearts with railings, chants, outward symbol or practice.

The obstacle here is ignorance, pure and simple.
If you really want to look for a culprit look to the way the Church has abandoned it’s mission to run Catholic schools.


12 posted on 08/19/2019 12:39:20 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
You can’t overcome a deficiency in people’s hearts with railings, chants, outward symbol or practice.

I strongly disagree. Receiving Holy Communion in the paw and on the hoof is horrendous.

But what disturbs me the most is the lack of altar boys (not chicks) holding communion patens beneath the chin of communicants in case the Blessed Sacrament is dropped.

That right there is a sign of disbelief in the Real Presence.

I will not receive Holy Communion without a paten beneath my chin. I have too much respect for God to do so otherwise.

13 posted on 08/19/2019 12:49:30 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: SkyDancer
I think it's perfectly proper for the Protestants to pass everything around on a tray, and even in those little individual cups. They do not consider i the "Real" or "True" Body of Christ, but it is still a devotional object. I wouldn't partake, of course, but I would show true respect for others' reverence.

On the other hand: whole, not parts; living, not dead; sacramental realis. not symbolism) -- that we show signs of actual worship.

The Eastern (Byzantine) Catholics receive standing, but receive the particle of Host soaked in the Blood of the chalice, dropped nto their mouths by a silver spool held by the priest. This is their equally worshipful custom.

We in the West are supposed to receive it kneeling, on the tongue: our custom.

at the Firs Eucharist, I'm not sure they knew what was happening, with our Lord, present right in front of their eyes, saying what looked like bread was His Body, and what looked like wine was His Blood --- the Blood of the Covenant. It must have been a somewhat weird and unnerving, an unsettling but moving moment.

After the Resurrection, when He told Thomas to go ahead and put his fingers in the nail holes, and put his hand into that awful gash in His slashed-open side, ---I'm sure at that point, the conversation wasn't chatty, nor the touches casual.

At that point they weren't saying, "Well, uh, yeahsure thanks, man." They were murmuring "My Lord and My God."

14 posted on 08/19/2019 1:17:25 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Jesus, my Lord, my God, my All.)
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To: ebb tide
I will not receive Holy Communion without a paten beneath my chin. I have too much respect for God to do so otherwise.

Yeah, would be a shame to spill any on that scapular of an idol around your neck.

An idol doesn't convey respect for God.

15 posted on 08/19/2019 1:18:20 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: SkyDancer

In understand our question is in good faith, with a good will. That’s refreshing: rather a rarity, around here.


16 posted on 08/19/2019 1:19:19 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Jesus, my Lord, my God, my All.)
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To: ealgeone

I don’t wear or worship idols.

Move along to harass another Catholic.


17 posted on 08/19/2019 1:21:07 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide
That scapular around your neck is an idol as it makes a false promise in contradiction of Scripture.
18 posted on 08/19/2019 1:46:54 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Being a Messianic Jew and attend services we believe what Yeshua said about the bread and wine being a representative of who He is and is done as a remembrance of Him. I also understand Catholic tradition on their interpretation. It’s basically remembering Yeshua’s sacrifice for all of us on the Cross and what the Last Supper commemorates.


19 posted on 08/19/2019 1:47:51 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: ealgeone

Once again, “sola scriptura” is not in scripture.

Move along


20 posted on 08/19/2019 1:48:55 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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