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To: Just mythoughts; Al Hitan; ebb tide; Salvation; vladimir998; ealgeone; metmom; boatbums; ...
What is apparently escaping notice is the typical Catholic duplicity, conflating the meaning of Motherhood as progenitor with the reality that God placed Jesus in Mary's womb, without having sex with her and not using an ovum from her. The God has no progenitor, but He has a surrogate Mother in the sense of mothering Jesus.

Where the Bible states Jesus was conceived in Mary's womb, the meaning is the Jesus was implanted in her womb. When He implanted in her womb, she gave sustenance to His gestational life. She did not give Him life, she gave life support. Giving life to create an embryo is not what Mary did. Enlivening the Spirit within The Jesus is not what Mary did.

Catholics like vlad, Sal, ebb, and Hitan conflate, conveying the impression that Mary gave life to God so that the devilish mythos of Mary as Queen of Heaven (Semiramis anyone?) can be supported, albeit speciously.

God has no progenitor. He tells us I Am that I AM. The conflating of surrogate mothering with progenitor is devilish, and the truth of that conflating goes right over a Catholic head as evidenced on this forum.

64 posted on 08/19/2019 9:24:35 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN; ebb tide; Salvation; vladimir998
Where the Bible states Jesus was conceived in Mary's womb, the meaning is the Jesus was implanted in her womb. When He implanted in her womb, she gave sustenance to His gestational life. She did not give Him life, she gave life support. Giving life to create an embryo is not what Mary did.

The "Mary was merely an incubator" heresy rears its head.

Please come in from the fringe.

96 posted on 08/19/2019 12:13:16 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: MHGinTN

“God placed Jesus in Mary’s womb”

No. The Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary and the Second Person then, at that moment, took on flesh - Mary’s flesh - in Mary’s womb. Now, I don’t know if the Holy Spirit added any flesh to that flesh (i.e other DNA), but there was no Jesus to be “placed” in Mary’s womb. Jesus - a divine Person who was also a man - did not exist as such until the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary. Your logic means Jesus existed before Jesus existed - which is an impossibility.

The Second Person of the Trinity existed, but not Jesus because without flesh there was no Jesus to exist now was there a human soul to be given to Jesus since there was no body to wed it to. This is all correct logic and absolutely irrefutable.


201 posted on 08/19/2019 7:41:54 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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