You’re the only one making it complicated. Mary gave birth to Jesus. She is His mother. Nothing can change that. Jesus is God. Mary is the mother of God. It’s that simple.
You have refuted none of this.
No one here is claiming Mary gave birth to the Trinity.
“Mary is the mother of Jesus.. she gave birth to Him... she did not give birth to God.”
You’re saying Jesus isn’t God. You do not believe Christ is God.
“To say she is God’s mother puts God in a lower sphere... needing or having a mother.. it didnt happen.”
Jesus walked in a “lower sphere”. He got hungry, tired, sweated, bled, died. Have you forgotten all of this? You had better read Philippians 2:6-8.
im not catholic.. i dont agree with catholics beliefs. mary is not put in the same position as catholics do. i dont ask a priest for forgiveness. i go by the king james bible and talk to my Lord. ive been through the worst hurt.. and the lord is with me. ive witnessed the holy spitit.. i hang on because He hangs on to me. its personal..me and my lord.
post 73 was written by my #3 son. he knows what he talks... hes exceptional
You are, by claiming Mary is the mother of God...
Jesus walked in a “lower sphere”. He got hungry, tired, sweated, bled, died. Have you forgotten all of this? You had better read Philippians 2:6-8.
Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Jesus, prior to becoming a baby in Mary's womb was in the form of God (vs 6)...
He took on the form of a servant and was made in the likeness of men (vs 7)...
Who made Jesus in the likeness of men, Mary or God??? Vs 7 and 8 say God created the flesh of Jesus, not Mary...
How is it that God in the flesh could suffer pain and death??? It is because Jesus took on a vile, corrupt body like ours...
“You want an example of Catholic presumption?... “He took on humanity - from His mother, Mary.””
It’s logic, not presumption. Did you or did you not take on flesh from your mother?
God does not operate on the premise of your logic...There is no human logic, ever, involved in understanding the scriptures...