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To: Cronos

Positions on the Rapture don’t matter.

If there is a Rapture, all those who belong to Jesus will also belong to the Rapture. You don’t have to believe in the Rapture to be taken in the Rapture.

If there isn’t, those who are truly devoted to Jesus will be saved anyway, even though they thought the Rapture would happen.

In the meantime, many souls are being saved as people give up their sinful ways before it is too late.

Win win.

So don’t worry about it.


6 posted on 07/26/2019 3:30:20 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand

The Council of Nicea never should have accepted Revelation as a book of the Bible. The dreams of St. John are no more relevant to the theology of Jesus than the dreams of Muhammad are relevant to theology.


8 posted on 07/26/2019 3:41:04 AM PDT by Bookshelf
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To: firebrand
In the other thread about this subject I mentioned how at our large church, the pastors that I know have different viewpoints/beliefs on it. And can back them all up with scripture.

The head pastor in a sermon series on Revelation gave a brief description on all of the different views of the end times and the rapture. Then said something like “Now me? Well I believe in ‘endism’. Everything will work out in the end!”

I'm guessing that he probably does have his own more scriptural beliefs - but kept those to himself. Perhaps not. The main thing that I got out of that long sermon series was 1) It is very symbolic. 2) The Old Testament is referred to all the time, and 3) Most important, God is on His throne and is sovereign over it all.

9 posted on 07/26/2019 3:46:54 AM PDT by 21twelve (!)
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:: Positions on the Rapture don’t matter. ::

Yes, but we are slaves to the Law. We must be found “the best Christians” ever in order to ascend. If we fall short, we will not ascend. But, meh, I’m better than you so...mind the scorching heat, amigo!

Oh...the despair!~
-h/t, Luther


23 posted on 07/26/2019 5:05:23 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (There is only one POTUS and Donald Trump IS that POTUS; may re-election be upon him.)
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To: firebrand
I think you've hit upon the right position.

IF the Rapture is going to happen are you ready?

IF the Rapture doesn't happen are you ready?

And by being reading that means are you trusting in Christ and Christ alone for your salvation?

IF you're trusting in Him then the future is secure.

The ride might be a bit bumpy but you're promised you will land.

39 posted on 07/26/2019 6:05:07 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: firebrand

Thank you!

(And here I just went to “raptureready” and ordered my rapture tuxedo).


45 posted on 07/26/2019 6:17:36 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: firebrand
If there is a Rapture, all those who belong to Jesus will also belong to the Rapture. You don’t have to believe in the Rapture to be taken in the Rapture.

There are people out that than think you do.

81 posted on 07/26/2019 11:24:10 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("He shall slay the dragon that is in the sea." Isaiah 27:1)
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To: firebrand

well said


125 posted on 07/26/2019 9:45:07 PM PDT by pghbjugop
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