My question again - to ensure we are talking the same thing -- what do YOU mean by the Holy Roman Empire?
Do you mean
- The Empire of the Carolingians? If so, that was not the Holy Roman Empire, rather just the "Roman Empire - Western part"
- Do you mean what Westerners erroneously call the "Byzantine Empire" - that empire called itself and was called by others until the 1700s as the "Roman Empire" - it was a direct continuation of the Roman Empire of the Princeps, through to the Dominiate
- Do you mean the Holy Roman Empire as started by the Ottonian dynasty (called initially the Roman Empire, until the 13th century when France called it the HRE) and died in 1806 when it was signed closed by Emperor Josef I?
can you clarify if you mean any fo these as the HRE or something else?
I am referring to the western empire which was started with the cornation
of Charlemagne in ad 800, this is what every Bible scholar that I am familiar
with calls the holy Roman empire.
Also I have no doubt that you know exactly what empire I or any one else is
talking about concerning the holy Roman empire so don’t try to pull the wool
over this old grade school dropouts eyes because you ain’t gonna do it.