Posted on 07/23/2019 5:26:09 AM PDT by Cronos
I grew up in church culture. Most of what I recall from those early childhood and teenage years bring memories of good things. People genuinely taught me that loving Jesus matters more than anything else in the world. The world, after all, is corrupt and the place we truly long for is far, far away heaven. So we are to love Jesus and hate the world.
Now, this is not hatred toward the people on earth. I did not grow up in a church culture that taught that we ought to tell outsiders how much they suck, but that this world is not my home, Im just a passin through.
World and physicality = bad.
Jesus and spiritual bliss in a distant heaven = goal of the game.
This distinction came with a subset of beliefs about the destiny of Gods world. Eventually this planet would be destroyed and we Christians would fly away to heaven at the rapture of the church. Certain Christians understood the timing of the rapture as it corresponds to the book of Revelation differently than others, but no one ever denied the imminent return of Jesus to evacuate the church out of earth.
What Ive come to realize is that the church of my youth probably had the rapture all wrong. You see, the Bible flows from Creation (Gen 1-2) to Renewed Creation (Rev 21-22). This is the narrative of Scripture. Nothing in the text (if read in its proper context) alludes to the actual complete destruction of the planet. This world’s worth to the Creator runs deep and because of this, the world as a whole ought to be intrinsically valuable to us.
Physical/earthly realities such as social injustice, violence, hunger, preventable sickness, and the destruction of nature are invitations to the church of Jesus to get our hands dirty and proclaim that this world matters (even in its broken state)! Christ will complete creation upon his return, uniting heaven and earth for the life of the age to come!
The famous rapture passage is found in 1 Thessalonians 4.15-17 and reads:
According to the Lords word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.
This passage, when placed in the larger context of the chapter, is answering questions that Christians in Thessalonica had concerning death. What has happened to our loved ones who have died before the return of Christ to earth? What is theirs and our ultimate destiny? Pauls answer: bodily resurrection at the return of Christ to earth! Not an escape into the sky [see appendix below!].
In this passage, Paul borrows two specific images from the Old Testament that would have been familiar to Jewish converts and Gentiles who were familiarizing themselves with the Hebrew tradition. The first of these that Paul employs in the text has to do with Moses who comes down from Mount Sinai with the Law with the great blast of the trumpet.
The second image is taken from Daniel chapter 7 where the one like the son of man (or “human being” or “The Human One”) and the community he represents is vindicated over the enemies of the people of God. Clouds here symbolize the power and authoritative judgement of God about the rescue of his people. This idea now seems to be applied to Christians who are facing various forms of persecution.
Finally, there is a third image in the text that comes from outside of the canonical context. This is the image of an emperor who visits a city. The people of that region would have gone out to meet him to usher him into their home in a royal procession out in the open air. This, Paul seems to apply to the church who will usher in their King into the new creation.***
Rapture, as it is popularly understood, is nowhere to be found in this rapture passage. Christ will return to resurrect, to purge, to heal, and to establish the eternal kingdom of God on this earth. Heaven and earth will unite like a bride and husband – for all eternity. Thats it.
The Bible teaches that when Christ comes back, it will be Good News! He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away (Revelation 21.4). Surely we cannot erase judgment from the picture, but the hope is that those in Christ will be raised to eternal life and everything that is wrong with this world will be made right.
This world renewed is going to be our home for eternity, and we have the opportunity to reflect that future in our present. Rapture invites us to escape this world: the last thing that Jesus would have ever taught! “On earth as in heaven” is what he said, not “in heaven away from the earth!” Our world’s future is hopeful. Let’s tell that story and not the escapist narratives that many of us grew up with.
[Kurt Note: This article is an adaptation from various pieces that are part of my “rapture” category.]
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Below is a Word Study that I did based on 1 Thessalonians 4.17. What is interesting to me is how it reinforced my belief that the “rapture” as it is popularly understood (Jesus secretly returns to extract believers from earth to heaven for eternity) is completely unwarranted. If you choose to follow the logic below, you will know why 🙂
The word underlying air in 1 Thessalonians 4.17 is the Greek word ἀήρ (Strongs: #109).
The usage of ἀήρ in the New Testament by verse:
Acts 22:23
…εἰς τὸν ἀέρ
…dust into the air,
1Co 9:26
…ὡς οὐκ ἀέρα δέρων·
…one that beateth the air:
1Co 14:9
…γὰρ εἰς ἀέρα λαλοῦντες.
…shall speak into the air.
Eph 2:2
…ἐξουσίας τοῦ ἀέρος τοῦ πνεύματος…
…power of the air, the spirit that…
1Th 4:17
…κυρίου εἰς ἀέρα καὶ οὕτως…
…the Lord in the air: and so shall…
Rev 9:2
…καὶ ὁ ἀὴρ ἐκ τοῦ…
…sun and the air were darkened by…
Rev 16:17
…ἐπὶ τὸν ἀέρα καὶ ἐξῆλθεν…
…vial into the air; and there came…
1) the air, particularly the lower and denser air as distinguished from the higher and rarer air 2)the atmospheric region[1]
After surveying the above seven occurrences, it is clear that the definition is simply the area of unseen space in our atmosphere. Below, the meaning in its various usages are explained:
ἀήρ (aēr, 109), ἀέρος, ὁ, (ἄημι, ἄω, [cf. ἄνεμος, init.]), the air (particularly the lower and denser, as distinguished from the higher and rarer ὁ αἰθήρ, cf. Hom. Il. 14, 288), the atmospheric region: Acts xxii. 23; 1 Th. iv. 17; Rev. ix. 2, xvi. 17; ὁ ἄρχων τῆς ἐξουσίας τοῦ ἀέρος in Eph. ii. 2 signifies the ruler of the powers (spirits, see ἐξουσία 4 c. ββ.) in the air, i. e. the devil, the prince of the demons that according to Jewish opinion fill the realm of air (cf. Mey. ad loc.; [B. D. Am. ed. s. v. Air; Stuart in Bib. Sacr. for 1843, p. 139 sq.]). Sometimes indeed, ἀήρ denotes a hazy, obscure atmosphere (Hom. Il. 17, 644; 3, 381; 5, 356, etc.; Polyb. 18, 3, 7), but is nowhere quite equiv. to σκότος, the sense which many injudiciously assign it in Eph. 1. c. ἀέρα δέρειν (cf. verberat ictibus auras, Verg. Aen. 5, 377, of pugilists who miss their aim) i. e. to contend in vain, 1 Co. ix. 26; εἰς ἀέρα λαλεῖν (verba ventis profundere, Lucr. 4, 929 (932)) to speak into the air i. e. without effect, used of those who speak what is not understood by the hearers, 1 Co. xiv. 9.*[2]
Although ἀήρ is not a word that is frequent in the New Testament, it is interesting to note that there is only one other word that is translated into English as air. The Greek οὐρανός has a different meaning when used as air than ἀήρ. Rather than referring to the lower and denser air as distinguished from the higher and rarer air, it means:
1. the vaulted expanse of the sky with all things visible in it
- a. the universe, the world
- b. the aerial heavens or sky, the region where the clouds and the tempests gather, and where thunder and lightning are produced
- c. the sidereal or starry heavens
2. the region above the sidereal heavens, the seat of order of things eternal and consummately perfect where God dwells and other heavenly beings[3]
It seems that the difference between these two words will prove to be significant. The word in the 1 Thessalonians text indicates the air of the lower region as opposed to the heavens as οὐρανός can also be translated (heavens 24x, heavenly 1, heaven 218). In other words, Paul had an option to use either of the words to talk about the air but he chose to use the word that refers mostly to the lower atmospheric region.
In the context of 1 Thessalonians 4.17, Paul is answering questions regarding the blessed Christian hope. What happens to Christ-followers who die before the return of the Messiah? Are they gone forever? And what about those of us who are waiting for this day? What are we to look forward to? In answer to these kinds of questions Paul describes the coming of Jesus as a moment of resurrection. Because Jesus died and rose again, his followers will someday be like him. They will have bodies that are restored to the image of Christ who is the image of God.
Paul in this passage uses mixed metaphors to communicating the reality of the final resurrection. He employs imagery from the Old Testament as well as from Roman royalty. Christ will appear in such a way that it will be like Moses when he descended down from the Mountain of Sinai. He will come with the clouds meaning that he will come with the power / authority of heaven like the son of Man in Daniel 7. When this happens all followers of Jesus will be gathered around their King and will usher him into the new heavens and new earth.
Unfortunately, the present passage of Scripture has been interpreted in several different ways; mostly indicating that the return of Christ will be a rapturous moment when God will snatch believers away from this evil world to meet him in the air (up in heaven) for eternity. There are several problems with this approach (too numerous to look at for this word study). The current word study exposes one of the fallacies in this interpretive scheme.
Had the Apostle wanted to communicate that Christ coming downward to take us upward was the goal of the 2nd coming, he could have chosen to use a word like οὐρανός. This word, which is interpreted as air on some occasions (as indicated above), would have given the impression that going to meet Christ in the air was a upward heavenly route. However, what this word study has discovered is that the word Paul chose to use was one that indicates the lower part of the atmosphere. Paul had a grammatical choice to make, and clearly he did not want to misguide his first century audience by making them think that being with the Lord forever actually meant going to heaven, away from the creation project. So, in order to keep his metaphorical devices in place without giving the wrong impression, he chose to use ἀήρ to indicate that he was not talking about escaping this world; but rather being part of its redemptive process. If the alternative word had been selected, Paul would have given us the opportunity to affirm cosmological dualism.
There is no dispute of how ἀήρ is to be translated from Greek into English among the translations. In every version that was checked (ESV, KJV, NIV, and TNIV) this word is translated as air.
After consulting the Easton Bible Dictionary we find that this word studys findings about the meaning of the word ἀήρ is consistent and verified. It states: The atmosphere, as opposed to the higher regions of the sky (1Th_4:17; Rev_9:2; Rev_16:17).[4] This is also confirmed by the UBS Greek Dictionary: air; ethereal region above the earth, space.[5]
***N. T. Wright, Farewell to Rapture, Biblical Review (August 2001). http://www.ntwrightpage.com/Wright_BR_Farewell_Rapture.htm (accessed October, 2009).
[1]http://www.biblestudytools.com/Lexicons/Greek/grk.cgi?number=109&version=nas
[2] http://www.greekbiblestudy.org/gnt/greekWordStudy.do?id=100095&greek=false
[3] http://www.biblestudytools.com/Lexicons/Greek/grk.cgi?number=3772&version=nas
[4] See: Easton Bible Dictionary. Available Online at: http://refbible.com/a/air.htm
[5] The Greek New Testament With Greek-English Dictionary by B. Aland (Editor), K. Aland (Editor), J. Karavidopoulos (Editor), B. M. Metzger (Editor), C. M. Martini (Editor)
I have always thought that verse was referring to the whole world..You
see when we are working in America it is day but on the other side of the world people are sleeping... It is also because salvation is very personal.
Salvation is a person not an event, Salvation is a love affair...The more we
know our Jesus the more we love him...
But no matter whether there is a raprure or not... to be ready to meet Him when He comes is key. Why churches study books written by man and not
The Book written by God is a mystery to me. It is in the scriptures we see our Jesus.
Excellent post!
All of our words and deeds
will echo forever into eternity.
May God have Mercy on us all.
Be Ready!
7
We do not know the day or the hour. We are commanded to know the season. As Christ wept over Jerusalem on of the reasons He listed for her destruction was she did not know the time of her visitation.
Your commentary shows you have excellent intelligence. But like the Pharisees prayers that are but words falling on deaf ears, your intellect will not help you meet and experience Christ.
You can read and know every word of a bicycle operating manual, but still not know how to ride. It is similar with meeting Christ Jesus.
Most Christian’s proclaim Jesus as you Saviour, as I do. Then they treat Jesus as a lifeguard that can pluck you out when drowning (save you when you die.) While Jesus can do that, which would you sooner have, a lifeguard that waits until you are drowning to rescue you, or a lifeguard that teaches you how to swim?
Jesus is teaching us how to swim (act as Jesus would) and when we do, we too will do the things that He does and even more with Him in us.
It really is that simple.
Jesus is here already, but those without ears can’t hear Him and those without eyes can’t see Him. We must be raised up to do so. How do we raise up? By following the two most important commands He gave us.
Just as a swimmer can raise up in the water, those who embrace Jesus in Love can raise up in consciousness. When you do, you are born anew and experience Jesus.
7 - the number signifying completeness - at the throne of God is the 7 spirits signifying the Holy Spirit (who is complete).
6 - incompleteness - and just as the Bible repeats something thrice for emphasis, so 6 6 6 - the numerical number for Nero, is a repeated incompleteness.
1000 - signifying a very long period. 1000 is taken in other cultures for "a long time" - even in anti-Christian ones like theNazis 1000 year Reich
The 1000 year is also symbolical and perhaps literal in indicating the timeperiod between the establishment of the Davidic Kingdom (traditionally about 1000 BC) and Jesus
Jesus Kingdom will not be of the earth - John 18:36
Jesus answered, My Kingdom is not of this world. If My Kingdom were of this world, then would My servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews. But now is My Kingdom not from hence.Incidentally, Rev 20:4 doesn't talk of Jesus reigning on the earth - His Kingdom is not of the world
That makes sense.
That was well said. Dr Michael Heiser has a phrase regarding the Kingdom of heaven being here as you described: Already, but not yet.
His kingdom is HERE, but not yet complete. My belief is that the believer enters that kingdom when they accept His free gift. At that point it’s not about waiting. I compare it to a soldier in a war. You don’t claim citizenship and then wait around for the end of the war to enjoy the country’s blessings. You grab a rifle and join the fight, and also enjoy the fruits of victory. And the fight itself, and all you learn from it, is very rewarding in what you learn about your creator, and how you really can trust in Him.
Jonty - every one of us has sinned and has fallen. The only thing that saves us is the blood of the lamb.
The day or the hour referred to in Matthew is clearly about the day or hour of the destruction of the “center of the world for the Jews” - and btw, until 69 AD “the Jews” included both the Christ-followers (future Christians) and the Pharisee followers (future modern Jews) as well as Sadducees, Zealots, Essenes etc.
Thanks for posting will review later
He won’t “catch you up” - except at the point of your death. There is no such “left behind”
I just recently made the choice to discern between “sin” and “dead works”, dead works being a subset of sin:
Sin: Disobeying God’s law.
Dead works: Doing good things to improve your chances of salvation.
In fact, Hebrews 12:1 nails it: “Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off every encumbrance and the sin that so easily entangles...”
IMO, the “sin that so easily entangles” is the belief that we must “be good” to receive salvation, coupled with working towards salvation, rather than simply accepting it and then going forward knowing we are His heir.
Every Eucharist is Parousia, the Lord's coming as Luther might say
This will be a Good thread.
The Latin Vulgate uses the word “rapturos”...or rapture. The reason why we protestants use it despite no English direct translation was because of the Vulgate’s influence on the vernacular translators...
So how about that?!... the Catholic Latin Bible has the “rapture”(rapturos in it...meaning of course “to be carried off”)in it!
So be ready Catholics in good standing with God....Christ will take a bunch of you as well along with those pesky Baptists and evangelicals and other “ick” protestant types(might be a few chastened snake handlers who will be told...”told ya not to test me”)....might as well start learning to get along with each other...eternity is a long time!
Let me be a bit whimsical here.
If Christ is going to perfect his kingdom on Earth, does that mean I will be able to read every book ever written through all eternity?
That would be paradise enough for me. Along with pastries that by His grace no longer put weight on you.
parousia can mean either presence or coming depending on the context. Certainly Christ, as God, is “present” in everything not just the Eucharist.
Im sorry, but Jesus said that he is going away to PREPARE A PLACE FOR US, admittedly not HERE. That where He is there we may be also.
I dont know how else that passage could be interpreted any other way without a lot of tortured pretzel logic. Jesus was more plain-spoken than you give him credit for.
Not to say that we wont be back, or that that place wont be the permanent dwelling for us. But there it is.
1. there is no mention of "rapture" 1 Thessalonians 4:16 very clearly is talking of those who died before Christ -
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others who have no hope.Rev 4:1 is about John seeing in his vision.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so will God bring with Him those also who sleep in Jesus.
15 For this we say unto you by the Word of the Lord: that we who are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord, shall not precede those who are asleep.
16 For the Lord Himself shall descend from Heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first;
17 then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.
Jesus HAS resurrected. He went down to the dead and opened the gates of heaven for all - including those asleep
it wasn't in the Bible in the sense you use it in - not even in the Vulgate
The Tribulation period is clearly as you read from REv 1 when John who shares in the reads tribulations talks of the Nero based persecutions of the Church, just at the same time that Sadducee and Pharisee persecution of the Christ-follower sect (yes, the Christians were still a sect of 2nd temple Judaism along with the Pharisee sect) was also peaking
Possibly not, but again, the key question is are you ready in case there is one?
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