Posted on 07/06/2019 6:55:44 PM PDT by marshmallow
France’s highest appeals court has ordered Vincent Lambert’s food to be removed following a six-year-long legal battle for his life.
The 42-year-old nurse, now in a hospital in Reims, suffered an accident in 2008 which left him quadriplegic and with extensive brain damage. He is described by some as “semi-conscious,” and by others as being “in a vegetative state.” Vincent can sleep and wake up, respond to some voices, can swallow, and breathe on his own. He is not dependent on machines to live, but he is dependent on nutrition and hydration being delivered in a special manner, like many people.
The Court of Cassation’s final ruling means that Lambert, who is not otherwise ill or at the end of his life, would be removed from food and water and left to die slowly, which can take 14 days or more. The decision cannot be appealed in France, but his parents are fighting the order and have threatened to press charges for murder if his food is removed. However, Vincent’s wife and six of his eight siblings believe he should be forced to die.
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[[Maybe they could start a fundraiser and take the poor man out of France, to another EU country.]]
France will probably forbid it- seems i recall another case where a child or person was ordered to be kept in hospital there until they died when they could have gone abroad for treatment, they tried, but the courts forbade it
[[OMG!!! How can these people be SO VICIOUS TO A HELPLESS MAN?!]]
It’s Satanic
It’d be kinder to put a bullet to this poor guy then slowly starve him to death.
This is what they have for us. Wish I knew how to post a pic
And the Left scowled when Sarah Palin spoke of “death panels”.
This is beyond disgusting and inhumane. And his own wife is in on this. I’d hate to be in their shoes come the Great White Throne though. At least his parents have enough love left for him.
Matthew 24:12 KJV
And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
And yet this has taken place hundreds of times here in the US. Probably thousands. I remember in St Louis a teen girl waved to tv cameras but her father didn’t want her to live in a diaper. The outcry was so large that they had to hide her to kill her. Right after Nancy Cruzan...
In fact many elderly have been dehydrated by children who were legal guardians...it’s very common.
I worked with the poor, who often wanted too much care, but we had two “consultants” recommend stopping feeding tubes on patients who were not comatose but alert and confused.
Once “assisted suicide” is legal, it will be giving permission to every sociopath doctor or nurse who thinks people are useless eaters and should die.
Indeed, in the UK, they had to stop the “Liverpool pathway”, which is high dose sedation for cancer patients who are in severe pain, but they found it was used for all sorts of people who weren't dying, just old.
Which is one reason that I moved to the Philippines with my husband to retire.
On the other hand, in the US there is pressure to do too much.
here, my husband at age 85 refused chemotherapy and died at home six months later cared for by family, with no IV’s or tubes.
Not to sound callous but if that were me lying in that bed unable to speak, move, eat on my own, take care of other bodily functions on my own; I’d want to check out.
I don’t have a problem with him being allowed to die; he probably cried in relief. I have a problem with them starving him to death slowly.
The humane thing to do is at least what we do for death row prisoners. Make it quick and as pain free as possible. Heck; we do it for wounded animals and pets who’ve lost quality of life. It should be something we can do for loved ones. Who knows a person better than those closest to them. I personally don’t know anyone who would want to live in that condition.
I ask you; would you want to live like that with no quality of life?
No one would want to be dependent on others, but what if God wanted you to learn a lesson of humility from disability? Yes, I know: nobody in the USA says such things, but here in Asia (or my patients in Africa, or my American Indian patients) understood that disability was a path that their Creator wanted them to travel.
I think the “Christian” version of this is “take up your cross and follow me”. But of course, few “Christians” in the US would hear such a sermon nowadays. The only one I heard remind his listeners that all religions agreed with Buddha that life is suffering, was Jordan Peterson. Imagine that: an agnostic teaching the lessons that rich pastors don't want to teach.
No one else can define quality of life for this guy or anyone else. That they think they can is the problem.
The old are the next target.....They are useless...they are costing the healthcare industry billlions...just let them die!!!!
In other words, he does not require "extraordinary" measures to sustain his life; therefore, it is against Catholic teaching/immoral to remove life support.
“I ask you; would you want to live like that with no quality of life?”
The Lord gave me this life, He will take it. It is in Him I trust.
This cannot be compared to execution. Execution happens to a guilty person. Pets? Animals are given to us for care/use/companionship. They are not people. Ending a human life, that has no guilt is wrong.
It is a high moral question folks can answer for themselves.
Should all of a family’s income, savings and assets be used for medically administered feeding a and hydration for possibly years.
This is a kind of question anyone can answer in DNR instructions to their loved ones before they ever possibly obtain such a state.
Reading what a cousin of mine had said about the subject in her own DNR instructions, her family dutifully had the hospital NOT install a feeding tube, when dementia had progressed to slowly shutting down her life. She was at what is considered a “end of life” stage of dementia, which has more to do with the dementia reaching body functions needed to sustain life - like eating and drinking - than how long after that life might continue, in some sense.
And, my cousin had made it clear in her DNR that financial considerations were part of the factors that could be considered with any “life saving” measure doctors could propose.
My moral problem in this area is when the decision is just a government decision imposed on everyone.
This article has given me the impetus to prepare my living will.
the last time it became like this there was a flood.
Bad news for those at the end of the age, it won't be water next time.
I think you all might be coming from a point of religious/Christian conviction. I understand your point but respectfully disagree with it.
I believe God would not want us to suffer needlessly or to teach us some kind of lesson in humility through torture. He will have his chance in the afterlife for any of that.
On this we would have to agree to disagree.
How long before Soylent Green becomes our future?
you have just summarized the problem of pain.
Why does God give us pain?
There are no easy answers in any religion. But suffering exists.
So what would you do about it?
and if you start saying “kill everyone who is suffering” to stop their pain, you will end up killing a lot of people.
or you could dedicate your life to helping the suffering, maybe by just helping those around you with little things.
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