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“God Wants Me to Be Happy” - A Reflection on a Deeply Flawed Moral Stance
Archdiocese of Washinngton blog ^ | 06-25-19 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 06/26/2019 10:26:01 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: Bob434

It was meant to be snarky because I’ve experienced how Christian morality can sometimes feel like Christian Islam where “honor” and “reverence” have cut itself off from God’s joy and wild goodness. In fact, I grew up in it.


21 posted on 06/26/2019 11:36:16 AM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: Bob434

“Thus, in pondering divorce, a spouse might point to his or her misery and conclude that God would approve of the split because God wants me to be happy, doesn’t He? Many seek to justify so-called same-sex marriage, and other illicit sexual notions in the same way.”


22 posted on 06/26/2019 11:36:22 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: infool7

Oh and that along with

countless other blessings

made me very happy.

7


23 posted on 06/26/2019 11:42:00 AM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: NobleFree

it’s not a false inference when the article states :

“God wants me to be happy” is not a legitimate moral principle. It bespeaks a narcissism”

That’s pretty plain- I read the article- thanks- God wants me, personally, to be happy, IS a legitimate moral principle- His word is plain on that- as pointed out several times now- I’m not ‘picking a fight’ when I point out that the premise of the article is wrong- The author points to selfish people as justification for his erroneous statement that “God wants me happy is not a legitimate moral principle”


24 posted on 06/26/2019 11:44:22 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: conservativepoet

so you’re comparing what i said to islam? Seriously?


25 posted on 06/26/2019 11:45:09 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: NobleFree

please see my post abov-e it addresses those ‘worst case scenarios’ meant to justify a erroneous claim- The article is, perhaps unwittingly, making it seem that For a Christian to think that God wants them to be happy, is a false doctrine that they should be ashamed for thinking-


26 posted on 06/26/2019 11:47:14 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: conservativepoet

[[It was meant to be snarky because I’ve experienced how Christian morality can sometimes feel like Christian Islam where “honor” and “reverence” have cut itself off from God’s joy and wild goodness.]]

Nothing in what i said even comes close to saying that-


27 posted on 06/26/2019 11:48:15 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Salvation
very good! I tried to drill this into a Baptist Bible class I was teaching many years ago. God wants us to be merciful and obedient. Your happiness is YOUR problem. If you can't find something to be happy about, then you're probably just an ungrateful jerk.

They didn't like that answer but could not come up with good argument against it.

What makes me happy? A free donut. A beautiful sunrise. And remembering that Hillary Clinton will neevvvvverrrr be President. That always makes me smile!

28 posted on 06/26/2019 11:52:45 AM PDT by FalloutShelterGirl (Cool! I found my original screen name!)
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To: NobleFree

[[Many seek to justify so-called same-sex marriage,]]

first of all, it isn’t ‘many’- some do yes- but secondly, their false, sinful beliefs should be a reflection on us as to how we view God’s desire for US to be happy- Their sinful false beliefs shouldn’t be a cause for US to hang our head in shame because we wish to experience happiness that God provides us- That’s all I’m saying-

Even the title of the thread intimates that it’s wrong for Christians to believe God wants them to be happy: “God Wants Me to Be Happy” - A Reflection on a Deeply Flawed Moral Stance,

and then the followup-

“God wants me to be happy” is not a legitimate moral principle. It bespeaks a narcissism”


29 posted on 06/26/2019 11:54:42 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Salvation

““God wants me to be happy” is not a legitimate moral principle.”

It’s also a poor life. Happiness is fleeting. It comes and goes as times change. Rather than seek a happy life, we should seek lives of meaning. That is far more lasting.


30 posted on 06/26/2019 11:58:05 AM PDT by JamesP81 (The Democrat Party is a criminal organization.)
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To: NobleFree

[[but secondly, their false, sinful beliefs should be a reflection on us]]

that shoudl read

but secondly, their false, sinful beliefs should —Not— be a reflection on us


31 posted on 06/26/2019 12:06:46 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Salvation

I personally hate this “feel good theology”....

God does not promise you riches or happiness... Jesus didn’t promise you an easy life....

Folks who pitch this crap are blasphemers and cranks.


32 posted on 06/26/2019 12:17:12 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay
Joel Osteen and Robert Tilton are seriously upset with you.
33 posted on 06/26/2019 1:00:51 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I heard a joke the other day that the CNN poll showed . . . No that was it. The CNN poll.)
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To: BipolarBob

Good, because they are frauds, blasphemers, heretics and hacks!

If they are upset with me, I probably have earned a few points on the right side of the ledger.

You tell the Christian living in persecution in North Korea, or elsewhere, that if you follow God he will bless you with worldly riches!! This is ABSOLUTE BLASPHEMY!

For crying out loud, Just read Job fro crying out loud, what did God do to him? Took all his worldly goods, killed his family, struck him with disease... just to prove to Satan that Job was loyal to him.. Yes he blessed him again after.. but I hardly think Job’s worldly happiness was God’s priority.

People that preach this DRIVEL are HUCKSTERS... No different than that email from Nigeria promising you a cut of Millions of dollars, or those ads promising you a donkey penis if you just buy their pills. Absolutely NO DIFFERENCE.. other than those people aren’t claiming GOD wants you to do what they want and send your money to them.

Yes, there is a lot of wisdom in the bible, and if you live by the principles within it, you may indeed have a better worldly life, than if you did not.. but you can live by every single principle God describes, and still end up without 2 nickels to your name.

It is INSANITY that people buy into this.. Oh if you just live as god describes he will bless you with wealth and happiness.... Tell that to the N. Korean, arrested, tortured and murdered because he dared to practice the faith!


34 posted on 06/26/2019 1:13:25 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Salvation

God wants us to be holy.


35 posted on 06/26/2019 1:18:26 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain
👍🏼👍🏼
36 posted on 06/26/2019 1:19:23 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Bob434

The joy of the Lord is different from being happy.

OTOH, neither does God want us to be miserable.

I think what he’s getting at is that it becomes a problem when we let the thinking that God wants us to be happy to be the basis for making decisions instead of Scripture and God’s moral absolutes doing that.


37 posted on 06/26/2019 1:38:28 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: infool7
That made me 😃 smile today.
38 posted on 06/26/2019 2:05:58 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl

Thank You,

I work from home and

it’s just outside my window

the afternoon and setting sunlight

have the most wonderful effects.

Pleasure, Joy & Happiness are

gifts from God and we should

not reject His kindness but

carefully endeavor to properly

appreciate His blessings.

7


39 posted on 06/26/2019 2:51:26 PM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: Bob434

All about the Lord.

Forget the “self-centered” me.


40 posted on 06/26/2019 2:55:48 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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