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If they don’t follow Judaism, messianic Jews are not Jewish.

No; Jews are born of a Jewish mother. If Jews do not follow Judaism, they do not follow Judaism; it may make them secular, less observant in some areas to Orthodox Judaism, or a convert to another religion, but it does not make them not a Jew.

Judaism is Orthodox (period). All other flavors are modern inventions that go to varying degrees against Halacha (Jewish law), sometimes to see what they can get away with. Reform accepts almost anyone as a Jew. Conservative accepts women as rabbis when they are not rabbis, and accepts homosexuals as married when they are not married.

[otness_e]

So what about Hasidic Jews?

In any case, I am wary of Talmudic Jews thanks to their tendency from that book to practice their equivalent of Taqqiya, and aside from that, I have a lot of disgust towards the Talmud after they depicted God the Father in Bava Metzia 59b where they, I don’t know, depicted him, despite his being an omnipotent and omniscient being, as being so dumb and weak that he not only lost a debate to a rabbi, but that an entire group of them had restrained him after Mt. Sinai to such an extent that he’s not allowed to do ANYTHING without a majority vote, make him weaker and dumber than a bunch of mortals in other words. I’d argue that was even more of a blasphemous teaching than even the tasteless depictions of Mary and Jesus.