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To: golux; EinNYC

“There’s no fighting it, Ein. The Yeshuah types are not only convinced that all Jews are going to Hell... They’re convinced they’re the exception!”
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Hi, golux-!

You’ve not been listening closely enough to the Christians, and it’s understandable. Folks who believe strongly in their belief system often tune out what may cause questions to arise within their thought process. It’s unfortunately a part of the human condition, on of which I’ve experienced more times than I would normally wish to admit.

That said, Christians do NOT believe they are the only ones NOT going to Hell.

Christians believe/know that every single person in the Old Testament who believed upon the Lord God promise to send in time the Savior of the Jewish people. Before they even had a name to be called as a religious race the believers in the Old Testament had the faith required to live for their Lord God.

No name was given, no timeline was given. Nothing. Nada.

Yet those men who lead and those who followed trusting in the Lord God would be granted Paradise.

Golux, I believe you wish to be correct/truthful in your statements and I am so very appreciative. It’s important to know who else we believe/know will go to be with the Lord God.

I must admit, golux, it is with sadness I note your usage of the word ‘charming’ when mentioning ‘the latest Hebrew words they learn in Bible Study.’

How unfortunate your arrogance stopped you from perhaps explaining to the Christians the origins of those Hebrew words. I would think you enlightening them would actually have assisted them in understanding your belief system.


107 posted on 06/11/2019 4:41:56 PM PDT by Notthereyet (NotThereYet)
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To: Notthereyet; golux

“How unfortunate your arrogance stopped you from perhaps explaining to the Christians the origins of those Hebrew words. I would think you enlightening them would actually have assisted them in understanding your belief system.”

It may not be arrogance.

I lived in a smallish city as one of the few Jewish people in a town.

Jewish people quickly learn to keep theology quiet. Actually, we learned this 1600 years ago. Tends to get ugly.

Or worse, a cocktail party ends up being a mass conversion attempt, one or two folk gets snippy, the Jewish husband has to leave, and the wife is angry.

Or it’s just tiresome. It’s like having to explain Hanukkah and various holidays every year, over-and-over, when you just want to be one of the guys.

And you want a Scotch, not a theology discussion.

If this sounds like the above comes from experience, it does.


109 posted on 06/11/2019 4:52:07 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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To: Notthereyet


You’ve not been listening closely enough to the Christians, and it’s understandable. Folks who believe strongly in their belief system often tune out what may cause questions to arise within their thought process...

Ah, the personal attack. I grew up in a Roman Catholic town and went to Church every week for a decade, as we all did.

I learned the RC services and catechisms in two languages other than English. (Latin, of course, was one.)

At the same time I attended an Anglican school from just after grade school until I went to college.

There, we had daily chapel service, and at that time, Saturdays as well. I would be surprised if you've been to Church more times than I have.

And, of course, there was Bible Study.

It was delightful, in college, to meet other actual Jews.

It is sad you speak with such obsequiousness so sweetly and viciously of my 'arrogance.' Moreover you, the expert, should know that Jews are not in the least interested in 'enlightening' Christians.

Yours is a game Christians have always played for themselves - converting the heathen with love - until you've had enough of our silly, dark religion and the massacres begin.

Every time.

Every time.


130 posted on 06/11/2019 10:51:25 PM PDT by golux
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