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Posted on 05/23/2019 5:56:15 AM PDT by ebb tide
May 22, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) — Two cardinals and one bishop have publicly called upon Pope Francis to clarify several of his statements, actions, and public documents in the past few weeks.
Cardinal Gerhard Müller asked Pope Francis to respond to the April 30 Open Letter to the Church's bishops accusing Pope Francis of heretical teachings, as well as to clarify some of the “re-formulations of the Church’s teachings” as they are to be found in Amoris Laetitia. Cardinal Willem Eijk has repeatedly asked Pope Francis to clarify Amoris Laetitia, as well as his permitting the German bishops to allow Communion for Protestant spouses. And Bishop Athanasius Schneider has called upon Pope Francis publicly and authoritatively to correct the February 4, 2019 Abu Dhabi declaration, which flatly states that the “diversity of religions” is “willed by God.”
These three high-ranking interventions and pleas to the pope for doctrinal clarity come in the form of a fraternal correction, which should be honorably answered by Pope Francis.
Just as clergy and lay theologians have asked bishops to confront Pope Francis with some of his statements and actions that appear to undermine the Catholic Faith, these three prelates — none of whom openly supports the April 30 Open Letter — have just effected something like a fraternal critique in public.
On May 15, LifeSiteNews’s Jeanne Smits published a lengthy interview with Cardinal Willem Eijk of Utrecht, Netherlands. Eijk had earlier contributed to the Eleven Cardinals Book, which tried, before the 2015 Synod on the Family, to reaffirm the Church’s full teaching on marriage.
Asked about his 2018 call upon Pope Francis to clarify the question of Communion for “remarried” divorcés, as it has now been already implemented by several bishops’ conferences, Cardinal Eijk now reiterates his request. After explaining the doctrinal and pastoral confusion that developed in the Church after the publication of Amoris Laetitia, especially “on the basis of a few elements and a footnote,” he says: “I think that the pope must therefore create clarity, in terms of doctrine, by means of a declaration that can be said with certainty to belong to the Magisterium.”
Cardinal Eijk had also, in 2018, called upon Pope Francis to make a clarifying statement concerning the question of Communion for Protestant spouses of Catholics, after the German bishops had published, with papal permission, a handout setting forth the possibility thereof. Here, Cardinal Eijk says: “Following this German concept document on intercommunion, and because of this explicit plea by cardinals in favor of the blessing of homosexual relationships, I asked the Pope to create clarity, quite simply by recalling [for us] the documents of the Church’s magisterium.”
One day after Cardinal Eijk’s words, Cardinal Gerhard Müller, the former head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, gave an interview to the German Catholic newspaper Die Tagespost in which he commented upon the recent Open Letter to Bishops. He first states that he does not believe that Pope Francis is a heretic, but then he adds that he understands “the concerns of these theologians” who wrote the Open Letter. He even called them “renowned theologians.”
Therefore, he says, “it would be important that the Holy Father make the Congregation for the Faith issue a response, and not the Secretary of State nor any of his friendly journalists or theologians.”
“As much as one can understand the concerns of these theologians [who criticize the pope], one also has to say that one has to choose the right means for the justified aim of a greater clarity of some statements of Pope Francis,” he states.
Later in this May 16 interview, Cardinal Müller also explains that he “defended” Amoris Laetitia, “but I consider some re-formulations of the Church’s teaching to be in need of clarification.”
Thus, Cardinal Müller calls upon Pope Francis to clarify his teachings on marriage and the family as laid down in Amoris Laetitia.
On the same day as Cardinal Müller’s interview, Bishop Athanasius Schneider, the auxiliary bishop of Astana, Kazakhstan, spoke with EWTN’s Raymond Arroyo.
In this May 16 interview, Schneider distances himself from the Open Letter to Bishops, saying the letter “went too far.” At the same time, he makes it clear that Pope Francis needs to make a correction to his controversial joint Abu Dhabi statement, which claims that the “diversity of religions” is “willed by God.”
“Regarding the diversity of religions,” Schneider states, “on the contrary, God explicitly said that the diversity of religions is in itself bad and contradicts His divine wisdom and will. Diversity of religious moreover offends God.” Therefore, “a public correction is very much needed, because as the phrase reads in itself it is ambiguous — not only ambiguous; it is wrong.”
Thus, we now have three eminent prelates who call upon Pope Francis to clarify or to correct his teachings on various important matters of faith and morals.
If he wishes to assure the Catholic faithful that his intent is to preserve and defend the Catholic Faith in its entirety, he surely will be quick to respond to such fraternal and charitable calls coming from his fellow bishops who have the mission to assist him to fulfill his mandate.
The longer he (as with the famous dubia) delays giving a response, the more he is going to foster confusion and confirm the impression that he, perhaps by indirection, desires to promote or favor heretical teachings and practices in the very heart of the Catholic Church.
LifeSiteNews has reached out to the Vatican Press Office and asked whether Pope Francis intends to respond to these high-ranking requests for clarification. We shall update the report should we receive a response from Rome.
Ping
Seems pretty clear.
The Pope says Islam is good,patriotism is bad, and homosexuality is okay.
Oh, and that whole “I am the way...” message? Forget about it.
Makes you wonder about the supposed infallibility of the College of Cardinals in selecting a Pope and think that maybe politics and political correctness ruled the day.
No, it makes you wonder whether Pope Benedict’s abdication was valid, and whether he’s still Pope.
Infallibility has to do with an ability to formulate a doctrinal statement that does not contain error, and the Church holds this to be the case under a handful of very specific circumstances.
It is not synonymous with the Pope, Cardinals, or Counsels doing or teaching what is right.
One may be obliged to pay some attention to something that is not perfect, but part of paying attention can be sorting out what is good to go and what has something of some value but really needs work.
Pope Francis occasionally says things that I do find thought provoking in a helpful sort of way. For that I should be grateful, though I confess that, on the whole, I often wish that he would just shut up.
There are several high priests and kings in the Old Testament that it seems to me Francis is clearly better than. I’m glad I didn’t have to sort through what they said and did.
Where are the rest of the Bishops?
Are they followers or leaders?
Homosexuality and underage recruiting are only OK if their politics and canon politics are in line with his.
May I suggest for them
And
No such infallibility exists, nor has it ever been been claimed by the Church to exist.
Consider that:
These are historic facts, undisputed by the Catholic Church or anyone else. They preclude any notion of the infallibility of the cardinals in a papal conclave, if by that you mean that the cardinals would always choose the most holy or capable bishop to be Bishop of Rome.
That is not to say that the Holy Spirit has failed to protect the Church. On the contrary, the survival of the Church, the faith of her members and the glory of her saints--- despite clerical malpractice going right up to the top--- constitutes a historically unique example of Divine Providence.
In the early 1800's, Cardinal Ercole Consalvi served as Vatican Secretary of State under Pope Pius VI, who had a long-running dispute with Napoleon. At one point, Napoleon burst out in anger that he would "destroy the Church." Consalvi replied, "Your Majesty, if we clergy haven't been able to destroy the Church in 1800 years, what makes you think you could?"
Over here. See the problem when a religious organization decides to follow men instead of his word.
There have always been problems in the Church. Jesus was betrayed by one that the Father picked. Today is no different. There, like today, have been multiple popes. Jesus will sort it out. He always does. If the pope has strayed the Church will go on in spite of conflict and error on the part of some.
You long to separate the wheat and the weeds. But Jesus said they must be allowed to grow until the end when He will separate them. But you’re desire to be in a Church with no dissent is understandable but ill conceived.
That's what makes Pope Francis so surreal. Over the course of 2,000 years, we've had popes at various level of intelligence, fidelity, and personal holiness, or lack thereof (see #10) --- but we've never before had one who has been so bold an opponent of doctrines of the Faith going back to the Apostles, in fact going back to Christ Himself.
The most troubling thing is that it does not seem to be mere ignorance or occasional slips on his part, but an overall paradigm that denies the eternal character of doctrine and moral law --- seeing everything as historically and culturally conditional --- and thus is a comprehensive anti-Gospel.
We're all praying for a prompt end to this chaos, either by repentance and conversion in the heart of Jorge Bergoglio, a mercifully-timed cardiac arrest, or possibly by an ISIS nuclear strike on Rome. No, I am not kidding. God will not allow this to go on.
Pray with us for repentance and restoration in every honest heart.
When I entered the Catholic Church in 1982, we had Pope John Paul and he is and was a saintly man who stood up to the communists. Things will return to the correct path. Maybe we will get Cardinal Arinze. Pray, hope and don’t worry as St Padre Pio said.
Where in the Bible say that priests are to be celibate?
You have claimed the authority of God and decided which souls are to inherent eternal life. You’ve said so in this forum.
There is nothing in the Bible nor in the Catholic church that teaches mandatory celibacy.
As commended (but not required) by Jesus and St. Paul, celibacy is honored by those called to it, and is always voluntary.
The Catholic Church does not teach that only celibates can be priests. There are now, and always have been, married priests. Of the 22 Catholic Churches (rites) united under Catholicism (Byzantine Greek Catholics, Ukrainian, Chaldean, Melkite, Maronite, Coptic Catholics, etc.) only one has canons that ordinarily require priestly celibacy -- that would be the Western Church.
In the USA alone, there are more married men in Holy Orders as deacons (15,000) than there are celibate men in religious orders like the Jesuits, Franciscans, etc.(14,000).
I would love to answer any more questions about this.
So then why doesn’t the Church allow more married men become priests?
It's a choice.
I think it's good that men should be allowed to choose this.
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