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[Catholic Caucus] Pope Francis Overturns Vatican Prohibition on Medjugorie
The Eponymous Flower ^ | May 12, 2019 | David Martin

Posted on 05/13/2019 5:29:37 PM PDT by ebb tide

Sunday, May 12, 2019

[Catholic Caucus] Pope Francis Overturns Vatican Prohibition on Medjugorie


By David Martin

In a direct breach of a 2013 CDF decree, Pope Francis has decided to authorize pilgrimages to Medjugorje, Yugoslavia, which can now be officially organized by dioceses and parishes without being restricted to a private capacity as before.

The announcement was made Sunday at the parish shrine in Medjugorie—held by millions to be the site of the Virgin Mary’s appearances to six children—by Archbishop Luigi Pezzuto, the Apostolic Nuncio to Bosnia-Herzegovina and Archbishop Henryk Hoser, the Holy See's Special Apostolic Visitator.

The "ad interim" director of the Holy See Press Office, Alessandro Gisotti, responding to journalists' questions about the Vatican announcement, said, "Considering the considerable flow of people who go to Medjugorje and the abundant fruits of grace that have sprung from it, this authorization is part of the particular pastoral attention that the Holy Father intended to give to that reality, aimed at encouraging and promoting the fruits of good."

Pope Benedict's Ruling Defied

The paradox of this authorization is that Medjugorie has no fruits to its credit. The Vatican announcement in fact defies the Church's previous position under Benedict XVI that the Virgin Mary never appeared to six children in Medjugorie.

At the direction of the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Archbishop Carlo Viganò, the former Apostolic Nuncio to the United States issued a letter on October 21, 2013, stating that Catholics "are not permitted" to participate in any meetings that promote belief in the Medjugorie visions. In his letter, Viganò said that "all should accept the declaration," stating that: "On the basis of the research that has been done, it is not possible to state that there were apparitions or supernatural revelations."

The declaration was based primarily on the verdict of the bishops of Yugoslavia on April 10, 1991, who decreed:

"On the basis of studies it cannot be affirmed that supernatural apparitions and revelations are occurring"

The bishops' denunciation was reflected in a March 25, 1985, letter from Bishop Zanic to the pastor of the Medjugorie Church, Fr. Tomislav Pervan, wherein he told him: "I demand from you that you remove the 'visionaries' from public display and put an end to their 'visions' in the parish church."

In October, 1993, Bishop Ratko Peric of Medjugorie was interviewed by Fr. Ante Tonca Komadina who at the time was editor of the diocesan newspaper, "Crkva na Kamenu." Therein the bishop backed the 1991 decision of his predecessor Bishop Zanic, saying:

“When he [Bishop Zanic] heard the small fibs and large lies, insincerities, inexactitudes, and all sorts of fabricated stories from those who claimed that the Gospa was appearing to them, he became totally convinced that it was not a matter of supernatural apparitions of the Gospa. Then he started to bring out the truth and to expose the falsehoods."

Started by Sex-Predator

From the onset, Medjugorie had every appearance of being fake, and in 2009 the Vatican issued a decree against Fr. Tomislav Vlasic—a fake mystic and sex-predator charged with abusing and impregnating a nun—who was the founder and central figure of the Medjugorie movement. He was punished and stripped of his priestly status on July 27, 2009, because he had continued with the movement in defiance of the 1991 episcopal decision in Yugoslavia.

Beginning in 1981, six children under the direction of Fr. Vlasic began making fraudulent claims of having seen the Virgin Mary in order to stir up mischief and to assist Vlasic’s efforts to undermine Bishop Zanic of Medjugorie.

Born of the Charismatics

Of key significance was the fact that Vlasic was heavily involved with the Charismatic Movement, a diabolical sect wherein the devil presents himself as the Holy Spirit to lure Catholics away from the institutionalized Church. Pope Paul VI condemned the Charismatics 1969 when he said it attacks "the very existence of the Church... extinguishing the real flame of Pentecost." (May 17, 1969)

Just prior to meeting the Medjugorie "seers" in 1981, Vlasic was in Rome to participate in the International Charismatic Renewal Conference, and there he was told by Sr. Briege McKenna, a false prophetess, that he would become the center of a worldwide Marian movement with the help of the "Holy Spirit." As soon as reports of "apparitions" began emerging from Medjugorie, Vlasic left his assignment at Čapljina for Medjugorie without the permission of his bishop (in violation of Canon 127), and became the spiritual director of the six children.

It was then that the Medjugorie cult began to solidify into what it was to become—a demonic monstrosity for the destruction of the Faithand it was Vlasic who directed the "seers" from thence on what they were to say in their messages. In 1984 he even wrote to Pope John Paul II to tell him that he was the one "who through divine providence guides the seers of Medjugorie."

 “By Their Fruits You Shall Know Them”

The fruits of Medjugorie speak for themselves, which include a falling away from the sacraments, a departure from tradition, contempt for the priesthood, attendance at interfaith worship, entanglement in fake mysticism (sorcery), promiscuous behavior, and the illusion of unconditional mercy in spite of sin.

That is to say, Medjugorie is not Catholic but is a wing of the international New Age network that simply uses the name of Mary to bewitch the faithful with a new gospel. Medjugorie is all about advancing the Charismatic Movement, which is directly tied to the so-called renewal since Vatican Council II. It advocates one-world ecumenism and teaches that God works through other religions, which of course is heresy.

It was for reason that Bishop Andrea Gemma, the Vatican’s former top exorcist, described the Medjugorie visions as the "work of the devil."

Why is Pope Francis now authorizing pilgrimages to Medjugorie?

https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2019-05/pope-authorizes-pilgrimages-to-medjugorje.html






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It was for reason that Bishop Andrea Gemma, the Vatican’s former top exorcist, described the Medjugorie visions as the "work of the devil."

Why is Pope Francis now authorizing pilgrimages to Medjugorie?

1 posted on 05/13/2019 5:29:37 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Al Hitan; Biggirl; Coleus; DuncanWaring; ebb tide; Fedora; Hieronymus; irishjuggler; G Larry; ...

Ping


2 posted on 05/13/2019 5:30:29 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

Q: “Why is Pope Francis now authorizing pilgrimages to Medjugorie?”

A: It is the “work of the devil”.

(Probably. I don’t like to entirely rule out the possibility of God’s will be done there somehow, despite the commercialism and chicanery).


3 posted on 05/13/2019 5:38:21 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: steve86
(Probably. I don’t like to entirely rule out the possibility of God’s will be done there somehow, despite the commercialism and chicanery).

As in God wills multiple religions?

Or that God wills some people to break the sixth commandment because it is impossible for them to obey?

4 posted on 05/13/2019 5:42:45 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

No, God’s will doesn’t have to involve phony after-the-fact rationalizations.


5 posted on 05/13/2019 5:51:01 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: steve86

So are you a Medjugorie proponent, or not?


6 posted on 05/13/2019 5:59:35 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

I went to Assisi years ago. Very lovely, holy place. Stayed at a very good hotel and at dinner, was seated next to a couple who had just come from Medjugorie.
They went on and on and on about it.

Went to my room after dinner. Slept fitfully. horrible nightmares about demons. My bedroom seemed full of them.

I think Medjugorjie is a curse. Stay away. And stay away from this miserable heretic SOB pope.


7 posted on 05/13/2019 6:02:54 PM PDT by Veto! (Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me))
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To: ebb tide

I know nothing about Medjugorjie
However, fraud and fakery is everywhere as well as delusional thought.
YMMV


9 posted on 05/13/2019 6:15:58 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: ebb tide

I never believed in Medjugorie and I know so many people who have been there..


10 posted on 05/13/2019 6:21:41 PM PDT by Coleus (Vivat Jesus)
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To: ebb tide

No, definitely not.


11 posted on 05/13/2019 7:47:24 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: ebb tide
Early on, Fatima (Portugal) had problems. Garabandal also had problems. Additionally, Saint Padre Pio (while on earth was forbidden from writing things down). It was so bad by then 'Padre Pio' that a Cardinal was quoting as saying:

'We have chained a saint'

Jesus said: (Matthew 7:17 and Luke 6:43-45)

Matthew 7:17-18

Just so, every good tree bears good fruit, and a rotten tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a rotten tree bear good fruit.

Luke 6:43-45

"A good tree does not bear rotten fruit, nor does a rotten tree bear good fruit. For every tree is known by its own fruit. For people do not pick figs from thornbushes, nor do they gather grapes from brambles."

When a person was 'troubled' about Garabandal (Joey Lomangino) he asked Padre Pio about this, and Padre Pio told Joey to go see for himself.

Though Joey was not cured of his blindness, he did post a website about Padre Pio and a booklet about Padre Pio which I have. There are good things in the book written about Padre Pio.

If your faith is weak, do not go to Mejugorie. However, back in the 1990's there was much 'good fruit' from Medjugorie. Pilgrims were asked to pray and fast.

I have no opinion on Medjugorie. I have a very strong opinion on the apparitions at Holy Trinity Church in Hrushiv, Ukraine.

Josyp Terelya wrote two books Witness and Kingdom of the Spirit. I am SKEPTICAL about some of the 'VISIONS' Josyp wrote about, but in one of the books he claims to have seen a war between China and Russia, and this frightened him.

While he was in prison by the KGB/FSB in the Soviet Union, he PROPERLY drew a picture that was captured on the cover of Time magazine: supposedly showing a 'Crucified Jesus' in the Mushroom cloud of a Hydrogen Bomb test in the Pacific Ocean.

I am NOT a person of 'little faith'.

I am ALWAYS skeptical about VISIONS and PROPHECIES.

12 posted on 05/13/2019 8:06:30 PM PDT by topher (America, please Do The Right Thing!)
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To: ebb tide
Been there. At his invitation and offer to pay my way, I accompanied a friend on his fourth or fifth pilgrimage to Medj in late September ‘17.

He: Charismatic Catholic priest passionately in love with Jesus. Myself: Raised Catholic, lived in darkness through my adolescence and young adulthood, came to faith in Jesus at age 27. Vibrant walk with my Redeemer in mostly non-denominational fellowships. I’m naturally a skeptic, but I looked forward to the journey as a great freelance photographic opportunity. Some of what is written in the main article I can attest to, but there’s far more in the comments from Lionel that reflect my total experience.

The village is actually a cluster of several small agricultural communities. It is an eclectic mix of tight, winding, old-world streets lined with a glut of souvenir shops. Every kind of sacred trinket, icon, or memento imaginable can be found, a thousand times over, along with some wickedly potent homemade brandies.

The dirt path that ran from our modern hotel, through farm fields and vineyards, to St. James Church was unfailingly lined with humble folk selling their own handmade jewelry, wooden plaques, fruits from their land, and some of the most exquisite lace I’ve seen.

But what began for me as a photo safari with my pilgrim friend became a most powerful encounter with the living God of the universe- an encounter I’ll never forget. And what also struck me about the atmosphere in general- and about the Masses in particular- was the humble reverence that pervaded the place. I recognized quickly that is something we’ve cast aside in America. The awe and reverence there was palatable

It’s true that commercialism has overtaken a large part of what once was, as I understand, a humble agrarian community. Multi-story hotels tower over farm fields. Tour buses clog narrow streets. Gelato stands and cafes crowd next to more souvenir shops. Gypsey vixens are never far from sight.

But then there are the holy hours of adorations and venerations, where literally thousands gather in a large, open-air amphitheater to worship. The silence in that space was profound; it had real, supernatural weight to it. Then there was the very moving evening in St. James Church’s prayer garden, watching the faithful silently light ruby votives arranged on large wooden banks, then kneel and pray.

This was NOT the enemy’s playground. Though I am a skeptic, that doesn’t mean I’m without hunger for the riches of God’s Kingdom on earth. Jesus reminds us that it is here, that it is among us. Sure, in the natural, I saw more than a few things that were, without question, worldly. On the other hand, I experienced so many things that WERE of God, that pointed me directly to Him, that I can unreservedly say that He met me there, personally. My faith was not diluted by having been to Medjugorie. To the contrary, it was unshakably deepened at a very personal place.

13 posted on 05/13/2019 9:00:53 PM PDT by Dad x 3
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To: ebb tide

*** Medjugorje, Yugoslavia ***

Does the writer use an old Atlas or garage sale globe?


14 posted on 05/13/2019 9:01:15 PM PDT by sockmonkey (I am an America First, not Israel First FReeper.)
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To: ebb tide

Medjugorie. No there there.

Waste of time. Bergoglio loves deception.


15 posted on 05/13/2019 11:47:05 PM PDT by Falconspeed
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To: Falconspeed

ping of old


16 posted on 05/14/2019 3:33:31 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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