Posted on 04/28/2019 2:51:32 PM PDT by OddLane
Yeah, I’m having flashbacks as well......
But it wasn't given to him by the Father in the name of Jesus because that would mean the Holy Spirit contradicts Himself. It may very well have not been all from Joseph Smith's own creative mind but the devil and his demons could have been leading him. Look how many people have been taken in by this cult.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGY8BQ5N9wA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNpq50x3Pq4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NM4Aqmx-iI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A53JybIQj6U.....Vince Gill....was an unknown then.
Maybe it's just time.....
Not that I don't like FR....but this argument..will not ever end. And we are all...I hope still FReepers....
Jeff Head...and I got along...and understood each other.
I'm just done with the argument....I think what I think..They think what they think.
FWIW-
Jesus said, “I and the Father are one.” It is this statement, among others, that caused the Scribes and Pharisees, the Jewish priests, to condemn Jesus and call for His death. There is only one who is perfect, which of course, is God. God came to earth in the person of Jesus, to be sacrificed as the atonement for the sins of the world, because only the sinless Lamb of God could take the sins of the world on Himself, in order that we do not have to suffer for our sins, through our belief in Him.
This article does a much better explanation of the trinity, than I can:
https://www.crosswalk.com/faith/bible-study/5-scriptural-points-to-help-you-understand-the-trinity.html
UTAH VIOLENT CRIMES POPULATION: 3,101,833 MURDER RAPE ROBBERY ASSAULT Report Total 73 1,697 1,468 4,172 Rate per 1,000 0.02 0.55 0.47 1.35 UNITED STATES VIOLENT CRIMES POPULATION: 325,719,178 MURDER RAPE ROBBERY ASSAULT Report Total 17,284 135,755 319,356 810,825 Rate per 1,000 0.05 0.42 0.98 2.49
As to whether we worship a “different Jesus,” we say again: We accept and endorse the testimony of the New Testament writers. Jesus is the promised Messiah, the resurrection and the life (John 11:25), literally the light of the world (John 8:12). Everything that testifies of His divine birth, His goodness, His transforming power and His godhood, we embrace enthusiastically. But we also rejoice in the additional knowledge latter-day prophets have provided about our Lord and Savior. President Brigham Young thus declared that
we, the Latter-day Saints, take the liberty of believing more than our Christian brethren: we not only believe ... the Bible, but ... the whole of the plan of salvation that Jesus has given to us. Do we differ from others who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ? No, only in believing more.[x]
https://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/what-mormons-believe-about-jesus-christ,p> Mormonism is in error, as are others, who equate other writings to be as valid as Scripture.
Oh, Honey!
You need to get OUT more!!
Responses showed significant emotional distress, dramatic loss of trust in Church leaders,
and a dramatic decline in Church Activity as a result of the policy.
Individual stories help us to understand where and how different LGBT Mormons find hope,
and why discussion about the Church can be so polarizing.
Mormonism errors in a great many areas one of which is relying upon non-Scriptural sources for many of their doctrines.
It's what happens when "tradition" is placed on par, and in cases, allowed to exceed Scripture.
| Figure | Joseph Smith Explanation[52] | Explanation by non-Mormon and Mormon Egyptologists (quotes are from Deveria)[25][43][53] |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Kolob, signifying the first creation, nearest to the celestial, or the residence of God. First in government, the last pertaining to the measurement of time. The measurement according to celestial time, which celestial time signifies one day to a cubit. One day in Kolob is equal to a thousand years according to the measurement of this earth, which is called by the Egyptians Jah-oh-eh. | "The spirit of the four elements (according to Champollion), or rather of the four winds, or the four cardinal points; the soul of the terrestrial world. This god is always represented with four rams' heads, and his image has certainly been altered here. — They have also evidently made a very clumsy attempt at copying the double human head of the god figured above, fig. 2, instead of the four rams' heads. The word Jah-oh-eh has nothing Egyptian in it; it resembles the Hebrew word [redacted] badly transcribed." (emphasis in original) The name hieroglyph above the central figure is Chnm-Re, the Egyptian "First Creator" god who organized everything out of the primordial chaos. |
Joseph Smith came from Protestant roots and they so utterly confused him that he adopted that model and started a new faith community to try to restore/reconstruct Christianity.
It's a Rabbit Hole tactic or a Red Herring one.
Or; just maybe; a political one; like the wannabe civil servant who states, "Thank you for that question." and then ignores it and rambles on with what HE/she wants to talk about.
Like the old story about the starfish stranded to die on the shore after a storm.
Two fellas were walking along and one was picking then up and tossing them back into the ocean.
The other said, "Why are you DOING that? There are hundreds; THOUSANDS even!
"You cannot make a difference!!"
"To THIS one I'll make a difference."; as he flung yet another one into the life-saving water.
Even though the Mormon Creed implies the bible to be inaccurate; it is still included; in it's entirety; in every Quad printed.
The Changes and Additions to which you refer are to be found in the 'Inspired' Version: the JST - Joseph Smith Translation.
And after ALL the work that JS did in recording the changes that GOD told him to make; the leadership in SLC does not consider it to be 'scripture'!
Do they accept Jesus? Lots of Christian religions have some far-out ideas that aren’t in order with the Bible - Catholicism for instance...only requirement to be a Christian is to believe in Christ as the Savior.
My guess is that in the HURRY to flee the deadly EXTERMINATIONORDER the document got left behind with the OTHER Mormons who did NOT flee. The ones who became the RLDS folks. (Who have changed THEIR name to Community of Christ.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_Executive_Order_44
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