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To: imardmd1
Waiting for Him to come before He will act is not salvific faith. NOW is the time.

Now is always the time, now and forever; every day upon rising up and laying down, forever. Watching is not for extra credit. It is a commandment and a warning.

  • And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.
  • Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.
  • Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
  • Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.
  • He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
  • He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.


Revelation, Catholic chapter three, Protestant verses one to six,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James


    There are four classes of servants in the next passage:
  1. Those found watching
  2. Those who assaulted fellow servants, partied, and became drunk
  3. Those who knew the Messiah's commandments, but did not keep them
  4. Those who did not know the Messiah's commandments, and did not keep them.


Were these servants saved at the beginning, or at the end, of their service?

  • Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.
  • Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth.
  • For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
  • Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning;
  • And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he
  • Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them.
  • And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants.
  • And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.
  • Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.
  • Then Peter said unto him, Lord, speakest thou this parable unto us, or even to all?
  • And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season?
  • Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
  • Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath.
  • But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken;
  • The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.
  • And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
  • But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.
Luke, Catholic chapter twelve, Protestant verses thirty two to forty eight ,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

1,411 posted on 04/21/2019 4:19:38 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981
Were these servants saved at the beginning, or at the end, of their service?

Be careful here, my FRiend. It seems as though you are going to make an object lesson of this passage. Such a passage has only one meaning. I have a pretty good ide of who these "servants" are, but before I disclose that, I want to know who you think these "servants" are. What is your interpretation? Is this passage plain-literal or figurative-literal, or ae you planning on allegorizing this selected passage?

It's up to you, now. Let's have your view, what approach you are using, and why.

1,412 posted on 04/21/2019 5:22:27 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: af_vet_1981
BTW, I appreciate your attempt to make these verses a bit easier to read, still recognizing the phrase or sentence divisions, but without letting the numbering system get in the way of the flow of thought.

Bit for my old eyes, you might consider making the citation text at least one size larger. And for me, it is not necessary for you to keep on stating that, while much of the scholarship was conducted under the authority of the Crown, James Stuart had no part in the actual process of assembling and printing the product of the appointed committees. Just giving the citation as Book, chapter, verse, and Bible version will be sufficient. I am well aware of the history of the various versions and of their underlying original language texforms.

1,413 posted on 04/21/2019 5:39:26 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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