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Moral Tragedy: Hillsong Pastor Carl Lentz Provides Moral Cover For Abortion On ‘The View’
The Federalist ^ | 03/04/2019 | James Silberman

Posted on 03/04/2019 7:53:28 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Last Monday, around 1:20 p.m. EST, hundreds of babies were being surgically dismembered, decapitated, poisoned, and otherwise violently killed inside abortion clinics around the country. Simultaneously, Hillsong Church NYC mega-pastor Carl Lentz had a platform from which to speak in their defense while a guest on “The View.” He refused to do so. In fact, he took the opportunity to suggest that their deaths can in some cases be justified and that the people killing them should continue living according to their own convictions.

When host Joy Behar asked directly whether abortion is sinful, he responded, “That’s the kind of conversation we would have finding out your story, where you’re from, what you believe. I mean, God’s the judge,” at which point the audience broke into raucous applause. “People have to live to their own convictions,” Lentz continued. “That’s such a broad question, to me, I’m going higher. I want to sit with somebody and say, ‘What do you believe?’”

This position might be received as a moderate stance on the issue or a lack of stance altogether. But in this case, to be on the fence is to be on the side of child sacrifice. “Live to your own convictions” is practically the slogan of the abortion lobby. Lentz might as well have said “My body, my choice,” or “Keep your rosaries off my ovaries.”

Creating Ambiguity Where Scripture Offers None

“So it’s not an open and shut case to you?” Behar asked. “Some people would say it is,” Lentz responded. “To me, I’m trying to teach people who Jesus is first, and find out their story. Before I start picking and choosing what I think is sin in your life, I’d like to know your name.”

This is a fantastic answer to the question of whether Calvinism or Arminianism is the more accurate interpretation of scripture. In reference to the biblical acceptability of child sacrifice, not so much. Scripture is unanimous and unambiguous in its condemnation of intentionally killing an image-bearer of God. There is no intellectually serious case to be made otherwise.

The abortion industry, with help from complicit institutions such as the mainstream media, academia, medical establishment, and others, is waging a propaganda campaign aimed at dehumanizing their victims. It’s a kingdom tragedy that a pastor of more than 7,000 Christians would join the ranks of those blurring the moral lines regarding the killing of preborn babies.

Lentz Has No Scriptural Case

Scripturally, Lentz has no justification despite the many abortion-supporting “Christians” who claim the Bible doesn’t specifically condemn abortion. The Psalmist writes, “You formed my inward parts; you wove me in my mother’s womb. … My frame was not hidden from you, when I was made in secret, and skillfully wrought in the depths of the earth; your eyes have seen my unformed substance” (Ps. 139:13-16). Prior to being fully formed, we have a substance that distinguishes us as image-bearers of God.

This substance is not merely a theological precept. It is physically qualifiable, taking the form of the human genetic code. This substance is the only possible foundation for human equality. If the abortion lobby had their way, self-awareness, viability, or another arbitrary trait would define humanity. If that’s the case, then human value exists on a sliding scale, in which the highly aware have more value than the oblivious, those who are self-reliant have more than those who depend on family, friends, or government, and so on. Denying personhood to any organism who is scientifically human shatters the concept of human equality.

Furthermore, biblical authors unanimously refer to the preborn as people. Job describes miscarried babies as “infants who never saw the light” (Job 3:16). Pregnant mothers are referred to throughout the New Testament as being “with child” (Matthew 1:18, Luke 2:5). Of Rebekah and Abraham’s twin sons, Moses records “the children struggled together within her” (Genesis 25:22). Luke refers to Elizabeth’s baby with the exact same word, υἱὸν (Greek for “son”), both before and after his birth (Luke 1:36, 57). They’re not ambiguous “blobs of cells” or “scrambled eggs” but sons, daughters, children, infants.

As for a specific condemnation of abortion itself, Jeremiah records God’s anguish with those who think they can play him for a fool and find loopholes in the sixth commandment (against murder). “Because the people have forsaken me and have profaned this place by making offerings in it to other gods whom neither they nor their fathers nor the kings of Judah have known; and because they have filled this place with the blood of innocents, and have built the high places of Baal to burn their sons in the fire as burnt offerings to Baal, which I did not command or decree, nor did it come into my mind” (Jeremiah 19:4-5). God didn’t bother to outlaw the killing of babies specifically because it is perfectly apparent that murder as a category includes murder of the very young.

Providing Cover for Child Dehumanizers

Lentz’s actions are especially harmful given the abortion lobby’s recent effort to infiltrate religious narratives. In April, a collection of 60 religious organizations co-sponsored a letter urging congress to keep Planned Parenthood funded by tax dollars. “As organizations of faith, we stand with Planned Parenthood. As members of Congress committed to supporting the wellbeing of your constituents, we urge you to do the same.”

In June, Planned Parenthood released a video in which leaders of religious institutions stated their support for Planned Parenthood. In typical Hollywood fashion, it entailed speakers taking turns finishing each other’s asinine ideas. “Everything about what Planned Parenthood does speaks to Jewish, religious, ethical values. For me, that’s ministry.”

Faith communities play a crucial role in the abortion battle because faith is the only significant bulwark remaining against the third-wave feminism that has overrun nearly every major secular institution. University of Chicago professor Jerry Coyne gleefully asserted in an article in July that killing newborns will soon be societally embraced and is repelled only by stubborn religious beliefs about human worth. If Christian leaders follow Lentz’s lead, Coyne’s grisly vision will certainly come to fruition, a repeated historical pattern.

Based on the counsel of scripture, our response to the industrial-scale massacre of God’s image-bearers should be one of radical intercession. Defending those being led to slaughter must feature prominently in our endeavors regardless of profession, but especially for those who’ve been called to leadership within the church. For many Christians and pastors, this means repentance, and for some, it will include recants. I pray God gives Lentz the grace to do so.



James Silberman is media relations coordinator at Created Equal, an anti-abortion organization that exposes the truth about abortion in the streets and campuses of the United States. He writes weekly for the Family Policy Institute of Washington and tweets daily at @James_Silberman.


TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; carllentz; hillsong; infanticide; theview
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To: 444Flyer

well it’s actually to be expected in to-days world.....everything is to dazzle and intrigue all the senses as this is the age of emotionalism and sustaining a feel good about ones ‘self’. ... no surprise either that Lentz attracts those who want their cake and eat it to.


81 posted on 03/05/2019 7:57:07 PM PST by caww
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To: COBOL2Java; marajade
Acknowledging that tendency towards alcoholism is a cross that one has to bear does not excuse the fact that destroying your body, your relationships, and your life with overindulgence of alcohol is sinful. With God's grace, one can overcome the vice.

I agree! I feel the same way about homosexuality. Some people either through nature or nurture can have a tendency towards same-sex attraction but the sin is in indulging that desire - not because I said so but because God says it is an abomination to Him. One person's "cross to bear" may be different than another's but we are STILL commanded to bear it and live in holiness through the grace of God.

So-called "science" does no one a favor by excusing wrongful behavior as a disease or claiming they were "born that way". We are ALL born with a sin nature but through Jesus Christ we have been freed from sin and death and can walk in newness of life. That is something EVERY Christian pastor should be teaching his flock and, if he is not, he is a wolf scattering the flock.

82 posted on 03/05/2019 8:12:43 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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To: boatbums

It still amazes me the foolishness people will buy into today..Of course there were always fools but ‘having itchy ears’ to hear what they want to hear has gone off the scale entirely in what is considered by so ‘many’ as Christian today.

I think of the scripture , as Jesus warned,..”Take heed that no one deceives you. For ‘many’ will come in My name … and will deceive ‘many’ (Matt.24:4-5) His use of the word ‘many’ rings so true now....and further Jesus foretold that some would claim His name but deny Him by their actions. He said they would “call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’” but “not do the things which I say” (Luke 6:46).

So I would probably conclude that Lentz is guided and influenced by a different spirit though possibly accepted the name of Christ but twists His teachings to create a ‘convincing counterfeit’ of Christianity that’s attracting a following to himself.


83 posted on 03/05/2019 8:15:16 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

Someone needs to tell him to pull his britches up! He probably gets a “mankini” wax.


84 posted on 03/05/2019 8:19:25 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Who is he? Some faggot from NYC, obviously.


85 posted on 03/05/2019 8:21:15 PM PST by lodi90
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To: definitelynotaliberal
It's written....”from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples ‘after themselves’.... Therefore watch” Acts 20: 29,31

When you look at the Galatian congregations Paul had to contend with where cunning pretenders at that time did not reject outright the gospel Paul taught.... They simply perverted aspects of it... Then they seduced the Galatian Christians into accepting ‘their gospel’ which was a deadly mixture of truth and error.... It contained enough truth to appear righteous and Christian, but it contained sufficient error to seduce followers away from the truth they needed to hear.

This guy Lentz and others like him love the attention and following they've amassed for themselves by all the theatrics and emotional ambiances they create. Jesus explained that lawlessness of our time, the key element in the message of the false teachers, would make their ideas appealing and popular.

86 posted on 03/05/2019 8:33:07 PM PST by caww
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To: boatbums
Lentz is very much aware what he's doing and the picture he wants you to see...and imagine...in order to attract attention. I would not be surprised if he has homosexual tendencies as other photos of him with men appear to suggest..
87 posted on 03/05/2019 8:54:42 PM PST by caww
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