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To: Mrs. Don-o; aMorePerfectUnion

This problem did not suddenly develop under Francis’s watch.

It’e been going on worldwide for at least decades, and by all indications, according to the article you posted the other day, has been going on for over a millennium.

And you all think it’s going to suddenly change without it being obvious?

When it changes, we’ll see priests defrocked and jailed.

Until the Vatican takes action, not hidden action, but bold and out in the limelight action, to correct the problem, then it has given nobody any reason whatsoever to think that things have changed.

Anyone who thinks that things are changing, as in getting better, with no discernible evidence to support it is delusional at best.


42 posted on 02/22/2019 12:48:58 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom; Mrs. Don-o; aMorePerfectUnion
Anyone who thinks that things are changing, as in getting better, with no discernible evidence to support it is delusional at best.

You know... I was thinking about all the times RCs here have criticized non-Catholic churches for missing out on the "benefits" of having one central authority over them like Roman Catholicism has. I think what we see here with this issue is the very real downside to such a thing when it comes time to "clean house" at the very top. If, as it has been asserted, homosexuals have infiltrated every level and those whose duty before God is to mete out discipline and remove those in leadership positions who are involved in gross sin and scandal are ALSO involved, then I can see how a thorough house cleaning would be nearly impossible. It would practically annihilate a major percentage of the leaders and then who would remain to do the leading?

I see the wisdom in maintaining local churches whose leaders are answerable to their congregation and a board of elders to ensure faithfulness to the Biblical truths and who lead by example in holiness. I think that is how Christ designed it.

57 posted on 02/22/2019 6:58:38 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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