Posted on 02/11/2019 8:26:20 AM PST by SeekAndFind
In a very candid interview for Vogue, Justin Bieber explained that he abstained from sex for one year, wanting to get closer to God. He also said that he and his new wife Hailey Baldwin saved sex for marriage, which is one reason they got married so quickly.
Not surprisingly, his interview has generated a torrent of comments, both positive and negative, including an article critical of Biebers call to abstinence.
But why get mad at him for encouraging self-control? Why criticize a positive example? Or is his example really positive?
On the conservative Christian side, its easy to throw stones. Justin and Hailey are hardly models of Christian purity! And were they so lacking in self-control that they rushed into marriage?
I totally understand those concerns and I dont dispute them. But rather than condemn, how about we encourage?
First, lets put things in context. A young pop icon like Justin Bieber has more beautiful women throwing themselves at him every day than most of us males will meet in a lifetime (or 100 lifetimes), let alone have these women offer themselves to us.
For him to stop sleeping around is a lot bigger deal than it may seem.
Second, lets not underestimate the amount of influence he has.
Kids emulate his every move. What he does is cool. Maybe theyll copy him here too? Even if some young people say to themselves, If he can do it, I can do it, thats positive.
Third, he realized that if he wanted to get serious with God, he could not engage in sexual immorality. (Again, Im not suggesting we parade him as the ideal model. Im simply saying we encourage what is positive.)
For many today, God can be added to virtually any endeavor, be it gambling or prostitution or fornication or adultery.
Just add God in, and Hell make everything better.
Except He wont.
He doesnt mix well with sin, and He certainly doesnt bless sin.
He does, of course, save from sin, but thats the whole point. To be saved from sin is to leave it behind. To put it in the rearview mirror without looking back. To be saved is to be changed, even if not perfectly.
Fourth, Paul himself taught it was better to marry than to burn (meaning, with lust; see 1 Corinthians 7:9). So, if this young couple felt they could not control themselves but they did want to spend the rest of their lives together, then marriage was better than fornication.
Would it better to have more self-control and not rush into marriage? Would it better to take more time with godly counselors and work out lots of issues before tying the knot? Sure, that would be the best.
But theyre not the first to push their wedding date up, and, given todays climate of casual sex, their example can encourage others to follow suit. (And for the oft-maligned pastors of Hillsong, to whom Justin and Hailey look, should we not credit them with having some positive influence here too?)
As for non-conservative critics of Bieber, a headline in the UK Telegraph proclaimed, Celibacy before marriage is a terrible idea - Justin Bieber shouldn't preach it to his fans.
Perhaps youre rubbing your eyes or saying out loud, What in the world? I dont blame you.
But Rebecca Reid, who penned the column, is sure: As far as Im concerned, before you marry someone, you need to do four things. Go on holiday for at least a week, see each other through an illness (bonus points if its food poisoning), build something flat pack and have sex.
Sex is a vital part of a marriage, she writes. And the only way to know if youre going to have good sex is by trying it out.
Yes, try it out. Kind of like test-driving a car.
And that leads to some obvious concerns.
First, parents, how would you feel about your daughter being test driven for awhile by her prospective suitors? And women, how would you feel about being test driven to be sure your potential mate enjoys sex with you?
Does anyone hear the words degrading or used? And how many times do you try the sex before concluding whether it will work for you or not?
Second, theres a lot more to marriage than sex (a whole lot more). Not only so, but sexual intimacy can flow naturally out of emotional intimacy, and couples can grow and learn.
Third, when you marry, you make a lifelong commitment, whether the sex is good or not.
From Reids perspective, in order to make a solid, lasting commitment, a couple needs to experience life (and sex) together. And while thats commendable, its also confused: When two people truly love each other and commit themselves to each other, other things will fall into place.
Reid also claimed that theres no real evidence that people who abstain from sex before marriage are more likely to stay together.
But, as I documented in Saving a Sick America, on average, couples who live together before wedlock have less stable marriages than those who dont live together before wedlock. And thats why, A new study has found that women with between zero and one sexual partner are the least likely to divorce later on, with women who had 10 or more partners emerging as the most likely to see their marriages end, according to the Institute for Family Studies.
In the Vogue interview, Justin said, I think sex can cause a lot of pain. Sometimes people have sex because they dont feel good enough. Because they lack self-worth. Women do that, and guys do that.
He also explained, I wanted to rededicate myself to God in that way because I really felt it was better for the condition of my soul. And I believe that God blessed me with Hailey as a result. There are perks. You get rewarded for good behavior.
Its true. We do reap what we sow (see Galatians 6:7-8). And God does reward purity and honor.
Im personally praying for Justin and Hailey to come to know the Lord in an even deeper way, to experience an even more profound life transformation, and to set an even higher example.
But I appreciate the steps they have taken, and Im praying their marriage endures and stays strong.
As for their millions of adoring fans, if they can understand the sacredness of sex, they will also understand the satisfaction of sex.
He’s an idiot kid celebrity. But when a donkey flies you don’t criticize him for staying airborne for only 5 seconds.
A lot of his fans are thinking “NOW you tell me!”
Speaking as someone who did this, it does nothing to prepare you for 20th Century Marriage.
Finally, now in my 60’s I have become the man I always wanted to be.
I am contented.
...taking advice from a spoiled rich kid with wall to wall tattoos is not a wise decision.
No wonder they are pissed, Abstinence is a Direct Attack on the Abortion Industry.
Well said.
It is easy for us to think that he may not be sincere, but what if he is?
I was thinking “Planned Barrenhood will be horrified”.
90% of the fun and the joy lies in constant practice. Even after 35 years, I still can't hit that magical "G" spot first time, everytime. But it is a lot of fun to make Mr. Snake go looking and feeling for it!
But Rebecca Reid, who penned the column, is sure: As far as Im concerned, before you marry someone, you need to do four things. Go on holiday for at least a week, see each other through an illness (bonus points if its food poisoning), build something flat pack and have sex.
Sex is a vital part of a marriage, she writes. And the only way to know if youre going to have good sex is by trying it out.
This is what people have been doing in large numbers for 50+ years. The results are in. It doesn’t work. Rebecca Reid is as dumb as she is fat.
I think he and his wife need to see other Men
Justin appears to be taking small steps toward becoming a functioning adult in the entertainment industry.
Many former child stars don’t make the transition without first becoming the polar opposite of their childhood stage persona, i.e. Miley Cyrus, just to ‘prove’ they are not children anymore. Some get derailed in depression and drug use i.e. Maculley Culkin, and see their marketability drastically reduced. Everyone thinks that actor is still hooked on heroin.
Yours is the correct, Christian response.
“It is easy for us to think that he may not be sincere, but what if he is?”
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Could be, time will tell. And he’s already got enough people piling on for these remarks.
Don’t care much about him or his music but I agree we can extend the benefit of the doubt for now, in time we’ll see what crop he has growing.
Well, bless your heart!
So kids should go f**k everything that moves?
Did you read anything past the words "Justin Bieber encourages" in the title?
We have a popular culture that advocates and tries to force acceptance of every carnal coupling imaginable, and some unimaginable, and along comes someone advocating chastity and sex reserved for marriage and he’s the problem. You can choose anything else as some kind of sacred right, but you can’t choose that.
BTW, the scribblers at the UK Daily Telegraph need to look up the definition of “celibacy.”
My wife screams during it.....especially when I walk in on her doing it. ( Dangerfield )
There was a time not too long ago when people married almost as soon as they reached puberty. "Saving it until marriage" was a lot easier when you were only saving it for a few months.
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